Posted on 01/25/2018 5:56:25 AM PST by Kaslin
One reason Democrats seem so fixated on importing illegal immigrants and allowing their children to stay and become citizens may be the exodus from high-tax and traditionally Democratic states.
Anecdotal evidence is usually not helpful in determining trends, but when stories begin to accumulate and sound the same attention must be paid.
Two friends of mine, who are longtime California residents, recently decided to move from that highly taxed state to states with lower taxes. As much as they love California, they tell me, they can no longer afford to live there.
United Van Lines' National Movers Study has for more than 40 years tracked which states people are moving to and from. This should -- and probably has -- received attention from Democrats.
The Washington Free Beacon has analyzed the data and found people are leaving Illinois, New Jersey (where the new Democratic governor has promised to raise taxes) and New York, among other high-tax states. Sixty-three percent of outbound moves were from Illinois and New Jersey. New York (61 percent), Connecticut (57 percent) and Massachusetts (56 percent) rounded out the top five. It is hardly coincidental that these states are mostly controlled by Democrats. Illinois, with its Republican governor, is the lone exception, though the state remains heavily blue.
California's top marginal income tax rate is 13.3 percent, the highest state income tax rate in the country, according to the National Tax Foundation. The state also ranks highest nationally in its sales tax of 7.25 percent. Anyone filling up at a gas station in California sees some of the highest prices per gallon in the country, thanks mainly to added taxes.
Apparently fearing an exodus of more high-income earners, Kevin de Leon, the state Senate's president pro tempore, introduced a bill that would allow residents to write-off state taxes on their federal returns as a charitable donation. This takes Democrats' worship of government to a new level. Officials in the Trump administration have said they are doubtful such a bill, should it become law, will go down well with the Internal Revenue Service.
The left is so imprisoned by its own ideology -- worshipping government as god -- that it refuses to see what lower taxes are doing at the national level. From the roaring stock market, to the decrease in unemployment, to corporations offering bonuses and wage increases to their employees, to companies like Apple announcing plans to bring jobs and revenue (and taxes) back to America, one might think Democrats would jump on the bandwagon and try to claim some credit.
If Democrats think they can replace American citizens who are leaving some of these high-tax states with "Dreamers" and other undocumented people, they might want to consider a new Harvard CAPS/Harris poll conducted just prior to the government "shutdown."
As reported by The Washington Times, while "Americans strongly support granting citizenship rights to illegal immigrant Dreamers ... they also back Mr. Trump's three demands for a border wall, limits to the chain of family migration and an end to the Diversity Visa Lottery. Most striking of all is the public's demand for lower overall legal immigration -- a position that has little traction on Capitol Hill but one that is overwhelmingly popular across the country."
As some have been saying, they want their country back and they have proved it by their support of Donald Trump and their rejection of high-tax states by leaving for more economically friendly ones.
California now has the highest poverty rate as the middle class moves out. You have a huge low-income group and Millionaires, declining number of folks in the middle, which will continue as people vote with their feet.
Unfortunately when those people leave high tax states, they don’t leave their political ideology behind. Look at what happened to New hampshire.
Perhaps this is the Dems solution to spreading their ideology.
And all this time I thought liberals/socialists loved high taxes.
They love to have people pay “their fair share” as long as it’s someone else.
I’ll make a wild guess that for every departing producing taxpayer, there are 200 incoming illegals putting pressure on state and federal tax dollars.
The math doesn’t work and next we’ll see California begging for (demanding) a federal bailout.
There’s still a lot of Conservatives in CA. Trump came from liberal NYC.
Flawed premise. When liberals move, they don't leave their liberal views behind. Look at NH--once a granite-solid conservative state. Now, southern NH is over-run with Masshole tax-refugees, and is at best a purple state.
“Unfortunately when those people leave high tax states, they don’t leave their political ideology behind.”
Well, in the case of California, as can be seen by voting patterns, it isn’t Liberals that are leaving, because they “like” the “gibbsmedat state.”
Just like (m)uslims as they want to continue with the same crap they just ran away from, instead of integrating and being assimilated.
This should prove much more entertaining with this years’ tax season, filed in 2019. The elimination of the income + property + sales tax SALT deduction after the first $10k is really going to squeeze Californians and New Yorkers, who get almost 1/3rd of the SALT deduction benefits.
“There’s still a lot of Conservatives in CA. Trump came from liberal NYC.”
Stephen Miller, who is President Trump’s Senior Policy Advisor, is a son of California.
“Illinois, with its Republican governor, is the lone exception,.....”
It should read: “...backstabbing Republican governor...”
> When liberals move, they don’t leave their liberal views behind.
Liberal locusts.
DeLeon is running against Feinstein for her Senate seat.
For anyone in Calif with horses, I have a 5.58 acre N Nevada horse set up with 12 separate enclosures. High desert 35 miles east of Carson City. Asking $380,000 for turn key set up.
Property taxes== $693.64 currently. Insurance = $868.00 currently.
Power bills under $100 a month. Private well & septic. Can ride right out of the front gate.
Can SNAIL MAIL info. Cannot scan on old computer. Property on Craig’s List. Zip code 89429.
Long Beach, CA has a 10.25% sales tax. The 7.5% is a state tax and cities can add to it. There are many cities over 9%. I don’t buy anything when I am there.
Another obnoxious “tax” is the 3% added to the cost of a dinner, to cover the health care costs of the servers etc. This practice is mostly in LA and San Fran.
I just deduct that cost from the tip and only tip on the cost of the meal, not with the 9% tax + 3% added.
Concerning U-Haul trucks:
I have been making plans to move out of this property when I find a buyer. In making those plans, I drew out to scale on graph paper where my belongings would fit inside 2 26’ U-Haul trucks. I have large items like water tanks which I am taking with me. (Horses) Even if I leave behind those large items, I will still need 2 trucks. Those tanks would cost over $2500 to replace anyway.
I had done all the drawings & then I called U-Haul to get info about the payload, so I could balance my loads in those trucks......After 3 calls locally, I finally asked for the number of U-Haul ‘central’. One dealer told me he had been renting U-Haul trucks for over 22 years & I was the FIRST person to even ask about payload. The payload in their largest truck is ONLY 7400 #!!!
I had to redraw everything—and then I found out that I would need 2 26’ U-Haul trucks & 2 U-Haul 6 X 12 enclosed trailers. I have weighed every item I could pick up & put on a scale. I have estimated larger items. I have over 21,000 # of books, appliances, furniture ( Nothing is Ikea) and other goods. I am NOT selling anything & then trying to replace items because I am retired & that isn’t sound thinking financially.
The local cost quoted of renting 2 trucks & 2 trailers from U-Haul was $5500 PLUS sales taxes. Almost $5900 total.
I finally inquired about other trucks available. Penske trucks are a TRUE 26’ long inside on the floor. U-Haul counts ‘Grandma’s attic in their ‘floor’ footage. Penske trucks are 26’ with a flat floor- no wheel bumps, etc. Then I asked about the payload-——17,000# payload. That changed everything.!!
I spent the next 10 days redrawing on graph paper to scale the load in 2 Penske trucks. No trailers needed. I can even ask for trucks with lift gates for easier loading & unloading. Since my heaviest item is a Chevy 454 long block engine at 550#, that lift gate will be helpful. Engine is only tired-—not broken. Rebuild is possible.
When I spent time at the Penske dealer, (They were VERY helpful), I found that I could get 2 trucks—2 appliance dollys- all the insurance available and could ask for lift gates-—all for UNDER $3400 with the sales taxes.
What a difference!!! Over $2500 !!!!!
So a word of advice-—IF you are moving any distance —I am planning on about 2000 miles-—ask all the right questions and make sure you have your load balanced for a safe trip.
I will have a convoy—My 1976 Chevy dually with a 4 horse trailer & horses, my 1979 Buick station wagon, and then 2 Penske trucks. 4 drivers & a floater spare. 5 days & 4 nights on the road. Route is all worked out. Clipboards with info for every driver.
The Washington Free Beacon has analyzed the data and found people are leaving Illinois, New Jersey (where the new Democratic governor has promised to raise taxes) and New York, among other high-tax states. Sixty-three percent of outbound moves were from Illinois and New Jersey. New York (61 percent), Connecticut (57 percent) and Massachusetts (56 percent) rounded out the top five. It is hardly coincidental that these states are mostly controlled by Democrats.
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