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Why America’s stealth jet forces should fear China’s new unarmed eye in the sky
South China Morning Post ^ | 24 January, 2018 | Kristin Huang

Posted on 01/24/2018 8:52:09 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 01/24/2018 8:52:09 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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2 posted on 01/24/2018 8:52:32 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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AWACS Chinese style?...................


3 posted on 01/24/2018 8:54:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Woah...

AESA was never created to detect stealth so this article is moot. AESA emits a reduced radar signature while scanning across a wide range of frequencies.

Not to mention these people believe just because an F-117 went down thanks to a well-programmed SA-3, they can do the same to a more modern stealth platform. I’m sure it can be done but no one has really tried to shoot down an F-35 or F-22.


4 posted on 01/24/2018 8:57:39 AM PST by InsidiousMongo
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To: sukhoi-30mki

C is for cookie, that’s good enough for me.


5 posted on 01/24/2018 8:57:39 AM PST by Eddie01 (Stormy Kromer)
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Props for loiter time.


6 posted on 01/24/2018 9:07:23 AM PST by steve8714 (Primary ALL Republican senators. Yeah, all.)
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A single AESA array on an AWACS style aircraft can’t see stealth craft, no. However, it’s been shown that if someone has two or preferably three or more radar systems that are datalinked, they *can*. Not well enough to get a missile lock but well enough to vector fighters to it.

Want to bet these have datalinks?

Also, it should be mentioned that in exercises when deprived of their AWACS support, the F-22 and F-35 actually have lost to older fighters.


7 posted on 01/24/2018 9:09:20 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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“I’m sure it can be done but no one has really tried to shoot down an F-35 or F-22.”

The economics of stealth is questionable. We invest huge amounts of money in a plane, which at its inception has x capability to penetrate defenses. The plane’s technology will remain relatively static over its life. The detection systems, however, are relatively cheap and will benefit from Moore’s law as time goes on. They will be more and more networked and process faster and faster. I think, eventually, the platforms we have invested in so heavily will be next to useless. So what if it has the footprint of a sparrow if the system looking for it reports a sparrow doing Mach .8?

Frankly, I think we have bet too heavily on the wrong horse. I’d like to see more investment in autonomous drones. They are relatively disposable and relatively cheap.


8 posted on 01/24/2018 9:15:23 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Wonder how much of the technology was given to them by Slick or Bammy?


9 posted on 01/24/2018 9:27:18 AM PST by ealgeone
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Funny how that looks a whole lot like an E-2. The Chinese wouldn’t be stealing ideas from us, would they?


10 posted on 01/24/2018 9:28:32 AM PST by lurk
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Depends on what you call relatively cheap:

$12,548,710.60. — the cost, per drone, of 10 MQ-9 Reaper unmanned aircraft the Air Force announced Monday that it is buying. Drones are a lot of things, but cheap ain't necessarily one of them. Nov 6, 2012

11 posted on 01/24/2018 9:28:41 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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The key word was “relatively.”

“The cost estimates in the NDAA for the cheapest version of the F-35, the Air Force’s F-35A, are the following. (Note these costs as just for production and do not include R&D.). “The 2014 procurement cost for 19 F-35As will be $2.989 billion.”


12 posted on 01/24/2018 9:36:39 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: sukhoi-30mki

This piece fails to take into account that our military is not sitting idly by while other Nations improve their technology.

The Chinese are a good 15 yrs or more behind us in both technology and force size. They won’t catch us unless we sit on our asses and get complacent.

Of the 19 aircraft carriers on this planet the United States of America operates 11 of them including 10 in service and one Reserve. China is reported to have three.

It is possible that just one of these monsters can annihilate an entire country. Along with these ships we have our MIRVED Missile subs,constantly on patrol and numbering 20 in total. Each sub carries 24 missiles with each missile having 8 independently targeted warheads. Each warhead is from 20-25 times more powerful than those dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. This adds up too about 4000 nukes which can be targeted on any location on the planet within 7 days or less.

Any nation attacking us will do so with the full knowledge heir Nation will be obliterated within hours of the attack by them.


13 posted on 01/24/2018 9:37:23 AM PST by billyboy15
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Be patient for every measure there is a counter measure which also leads to a counter counter measure ad naseum.


14 posted on 01/24/2018 9:49:11 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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In the meantime, the Indians are working on.....


15 posted on 01/24/2018 9:49:59 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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AWACS Chinese style?...................

Man, I just love this line.

The Clintoon foundation received a lot of $$$ from the Chicoms and these $$$ went directly to the Clintoon foundation. The Clintoons made sure the Chicoms got a lot of our technology since they were so "pooooor" when they left Arkansas.

I think most of the Freeper nation knows how the Clintoon Foundation operated.

BTW, why isn't the Clintoon foundation not investigated by a special prosecutor and this special prosecutor better not be selected by Sessions or Rosenstein in the Justice Department.

Heck, Bill Clintoon siphoned off about $5 Billion of Haiti (Another S___Hole country) earthquake aid. The $5 Billion dollar earthquake aid just disappeared and probably went into the Clintoon foundation. Now, isn't that special.

With friends like the Clintoons who needs enemies.

16 posted on 01/24/2018 9:50:21 AM PST by TheConservativeTejano
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Nice looking, slow, target.


17 posted on 01/24/2018 9:56:44 AM PST by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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Ummmm... Our nation HAS stood idly by under Obama. Are you aware that our tech ‘showpiece’ DDG-1000 destroyer currently doesn’t have any working weapons systems and the main gun on it will never work because we couldn’t be bothered to buy ammo for it? And that we actually deployed the ship like that?


18 posted on 01/24/2018 10:07:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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Same thing with *our* AWACS aircraft. Except the Chinese have AWACS killer missiles and we... don’t.


19 posted on 01/24/2018 10:08:20 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ealgeone

Wonder how much of the technology was given to them by Slick or Bammy?


Slick gave them literally everything available at the time which he know about.

Bammy came so late there really was not much left, however, they did manage to get NSA’s operational procedures, operational team members’ names and positions and the biggy: Methods and Means via their stooge, Eddy Snowjob.


20 posted on 01/24/2018 10:29:31 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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