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Andrew Young uses the same term as Trump to describe Haiti, but notes U.S. is partly to blame
The Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | January 12, 2018 | Jennifer Brett

Posted on 01/13/2018 2:41:14 PM PST by Cecily

First things first: former Atlanta Mayor and U.N. Ambassador Andrew Young Jr. signaled exactly zero – ZERO – support for President Donald Trump’s remarks disparaging Haiti and Africa as “shithole” countries during recent talks on immigration.

Instead he offered a learned and dispassionate assessment of Haiti’s history and its immeasurable contributions to the United States whilst throwing a little shade, as the kids say, the president’s way. He is a student of and a product of history he doubts the president grasps.

“Because I grew up in New Orleans, I have had an appreciation for the role Haiti played in helping the United States stay together,” Young said during a Friday afternoon interview. “The president? I wouldn’t expect him to know that.”

Young was born in New Orleans to Daisy and Andrew Jackson Young Sr. His grandfather named his father in honor of Gen. Andrew Jackson, hero of the Battle of New Orleans and later a United States president.

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Andrew Young is always interesting.
1 posted on 01/13/2018 2:41:14 PM PST by Cecily
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To: Cecily

Shouldn’t he be changing his name?

Why yes, I believe he should. Hey, it’s all the rage right now. Tear things down, rename them if not.

Yes Mr. Young, Hillary Clinton contributed to what Haiti is today. We already knew.

The U. S. has tried to help Haiti a lot.

This is what it gets for it.


2 posted on 01/13/2018 2:49:43 PM PST by DoughtyOne (A/O 01/12/18 DJIA business close 25,803.19, a 44.25% increase over the morning of 11/07/16.)
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To: Cecily
The US IS partly to blame, and that blame can be at least partially laid at the feet of the Clintons, AND all of their privileged elitist supporters in the entertainment industry, the media, and academics. Many of these people, whether they are willing or capable of self-assessing, have contributed to suffering all around the nation and the world through their ideological choices, arrogance, and ignorance.
3 posted on 01/13/2018 2:52:59 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Cecily

The US has no responsibility for the mess Haiti is.

We have tried to help but unless the Hatians themselves get on board with cleaning up the corruption in their government and elsewhere, it’s not going to change.


4 posted on 01/13/2018 3:12:45 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

Actually, I recall that Bill Clinton, when President, used the U.S. military to reinstall the dictator Baby Doc Duvalier after he was ousted. So the U.S. under Clinton *was* responsible for at least some of Haiti’s recent woes.


5 posted on 01/13/2018 3:32:24 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Cecily

“Haiti’s history and its immeasurable contributions to the United States”

Immeasurable contributions?


6 posted on 01/13/2018 3:35:40 PM PST by logitech
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To: exDemMom

OK. Yes, in that case, it did.


7 posted on 01/13/2018 3:36:00 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: logitech

In that it is hard to measure something so small.


8 posted on 01/13/2018 3:39:47 PM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: neverevergiveup

When one “helps” in a place like that, the devil is in the details.

If government is dysfunctional, throwing money at it gives that place some well funded dysfunction.

Missions are what’s needed.


9 posted on 01/13/2018 3:51:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

“Missions are what’s needed.”

Don’t disagree with that at all.

On the other hand, if I were running the government, what I would propose to countries like Haiti is that we would solicit American companies to partner with Haitians and start businesses there. It would be mandatory that those hired were Haitians, and the government would have to agree that any and all tax revenues generated from such an endeavor would go directly to infrastructure and modernization of the country. The benefit to the American business? Tax breaks in the US. The entire program would be voluntary. There are a significant number of additional ‘rules’ that I would demand be accepted and put in place by the Haitian government, but I’m convinced that this type of partnership would go a much longer way to helping modernize Haiti than just sending money.


10 posted on 01/13/2018 4:04:14 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Cecily

From what I’ve read on cnn, at least one of their reporters ( Jack Trapper?) walked back the allegation that Trump used this term, or any term, to describe Haiti. Apparently, all Trump said was to question why they were included on this particular list, and asked that they be removed from the list.

So, Young is agreeing with something Trump never said.


11 posted on 01/13/2018 4:08:08 PM PST by theoilpainter
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To: neverevergiveup

Better ideas are needed before a market can sanely take off.


12 posted on 01/13/2018 4:09:42 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Cecily; SaveFerris; PROCON; FredZarguna; mylife; Lil Flower; Corky Ramirez; CopperTop; ...

I’ve heard that India is a dreadful place.


13 posted on 01/13/2018 4:30:52 PM PST by Gamecock (The greatest threat to humanity is not "out there" but "in here" in the recesses of the soul. TK)
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To: Gamecock

They tolerate it because it’s all folks working off their karma.


14 posted on 01/13/2018 4:32:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Cecily

Author Jennifer Brett is an imbecile. President Trump did not disparage Haiti, that was fake news. CNN admitted as much. He was talking about some African countries. Haiti never came up in that dialog.


15 posted on 01/13/2018 4:42:58 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Kirkwood

“In that it is hard to measure something so small.”

Only thing that I can think of is gris gris bags and voodoo dolls.

So they got that.


16 posted on 01/13/2018 5:11:34 PM PST by logitech
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To: Cecily

Jimmy Carter’s field hand still alive? Well toss me a Billy Beer, Bub.


17 posted on 01/13/2018 5:13:03 PM PST by VietVet876
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To: Cecily
“Haiti is a shithole,” he said, echoing the president’s widely disparaged remarks – in an entirely different take. “But it’s largely because the French and the Europeans resented they were defeated there. Haiti has been neglected. It’s also been the victim of hurricanes and earthquakes. We have helped, but never enough to get them on their feet.”
. . . and whose fault is that? No, it’s not Bueller - it’s the Clinton Foundation.

18 posted on 01/13/2018 5:53:55 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: Cecily

Even CNN admitted that Trump did not use this term in regards to Haiti. Yet the Fake media is still pretending that he did.


19 posted on 01/13/2018 5:59:11 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

The undisputed smartest techie on my IT team was born and raised in Haiti. She is also the most evangelical right wing Christian on the team.


20 posted on 01/13/2018 6:07:16 PM PST by spintreebob
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