FBI Escalated War Against Apple Encryption
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Posted on 01/11/2018 10:34:05 PM PST by Swordmaker
An FBI forensic expert lambasted Apple for making iPhones hard to hack into.
Ever since Apple made encryption default on the iPhone, the FBI has been waging a war against encryption, complaining that cryptography so strong the company itself can’t break it makes it harder to catch criminals and terrorists.
On Wednesday, at the the International Conference on Cyber Security in Manhattan, FBI forensic expert Stephen Flatley lashed out at Apple, calling the company “jerks,” and “evil geniuses” for making his and his colleagues' investigative work harder. For example, Flatley complained that Apple recently made password guesses slower, changing the hash iterations from 10,000 to 10,000,000.
That means, he explained, that “password attempts speed went from 45 passwords a second to one every 18 seconds,” referring to the difficulty of cracking a password using a “brute force” method in which every possible permutation is tried. There are tools that can input thousands of passwords in a very short period of time—if the attempts per minute are limited, it becomes much harder and slower to crack.
"Your crack time just went from two days to two months," Flatley said.
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Made in China phone ping.
(I know, lots of other phones are too)
This sounds like so much dishonest kabuki theater on the part of a government that can dissolve the cases off of chips and microprobe them.
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Given a legal, public court order or warrant, Apple should make the device accessible, same with other manufacturers. Doing business in the US is a privilege, not a right. With it comes some responsibility and accountability.
The iPhone has MORE components manufactured in the US than any other phone on the market, and many other components are sourced from many other nations. Designed by an AMERICAN COMPANY, the iPhone is assembled by a Taiwanese company in China, Brazil, and now India.
Now what did your non sequitur comment have to do with the ENCRYPTION designed in the United States and implemented around the world in every nation and now being challenged by our FBI?
You haven’t followed this issue even in the most vague possible way I see.
Apple has always been willing to comply.
WITH A COURT ORDER.
It has been that pesky prerequisite court order that sticks in the FBI craw.
The point is that Apple has no back door, and has no intention of creating one to satisfy the US government.
Good. Privacy is all but lost in this digital age. It’s nice to see some things are somewhat secure. Not rooting for the bad guys; just Americans in general.
In the old days a letter could be written, sent without being read by a 3rd party, received by the person intended, then burned so no one else could ever read it. That was privacy pre-digital age.
Just saying.
iPhones are primarily made in China. Designed in America? What in the world does that even mean?
Bring the production back to the US.
$1000 a phone. You are on this board hawking iPhones. That is great, and you are quite knowledgeable about them.
But they really do need to come back to America. Other voices need to be heard.
Computers too. Bring back production of so many items, to the US.
Trump, this is an issue with real resonance. Both parties are completely sold out on overseas production.
Everyone is sold out.
Except maybe, Trump. Maybe. Maybe.
(with the notation, it appears China will set yet another record this year, vs America in trade)
Watch for December’s trade data here, sometime this month:
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html
Currently looking very much, like yet another all-time trade deficit with China.
Trump. Do something.
What part of Apple does not have possession of the encryption key to unlock the devices do you fail to grasp?
Secondly, that train long ago left the station long ago, as there are hundreds of software apps in the Wild that can encrypt data which cannot be unlocked without the key held only by the owner of the data. We are talking Encryption which can take literally more time than there is left before the universe dies of heat death to try every possible key using brute force attempts, which is the only means available to unlock them without the proper mathematical key!
The next fact is that an encryption with any kind of backdoor is, by definition, not secure. History teaches us that every single time a backdoor has been provided into an encryption system, IT HAS BEEN COMPROMISED BY THE BAD GUYS. Every time. No exceptions. These are the same encryption techniques used to protect banking transactions. . . Do you want backdoor access on those?
Apple included this level of security because our government REQUESTED they do so for government and commercial use, to prevent our government and commercial secrets from being stolen. Now they’re complaining?
Ahhhh gee too bad. So Apple are jerks and evil because they make it hard for the deep state to spy on people.
That's a naive statement, tantamount to endorsing the mandating of government backdoors into all of Apple's computing equipment—thus renders their privacy features utterly meaningless.
Doing business in the US is a privilege, not a right.
Correct. But Privacy is a Right. The State cannot reasonably outlaw the practice of mathematical computations.
With it [doing business in the US] comes some responsibility and accountability.
Sorry, you'll have to take these complaints up with God—the Designer of the Universe.
You can't simply criminalize entire branches of mathematics and computation just because decryption is difficult.
God made the Universe this way, and Man made the Fourth Amendment—which protects an unalienable Right to Privacy.
“Made in China phone ping....”
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FBI hacker, we have a lot of private information on those phones. Pull your head out.
There’s a reason for the security. Duh!
The phone companies aren’t mainly concerned with your needs.
It’s our needs that count. We’re paying the bills idiot stick.
When your part of the group paying billions for phones with security, we’ll listen to you.
ABSOLUTELY.
Yup. Yup. Yup.
They’ll win. And he’ll be a GREAT VP. :D
The Federal was never meant to be more powerful than the states, only more powerful than foreign enemies. So the FBI can suck it. All they are good for is checking who uses the right pronoun in hate crime investigation
I agree. The cell phone is actual a lawyer given the info you can search with it and AI soon to replace some lawyers. No way the FBI ahould get its hands on that client lawyer priviledge. There is a fine line between a predatorial government with hunting bagging limits and a poacher with none. If government with one click can hack cell phones, it means terror surveillance state and political attacks because there is no bagging limits - everyone is prey.
You’re complaining out of ignorance, as most people who rail at Apple do.
Apple is the only major manufacturer and assembler of computers who does so in the United States. The Apple Mac Pro is manufactured at a factory in Austin, Texas, with more than 90% of its components made in the US, which is a requirement to use "Manufactered in the USA" engraved on its case, which it does. Apple assembles Apple iMacs in Elk Grove, California, ten miles south of Sacramento. They also assemble iMacs in Ireland.
Apple is building a $3 Billion factory in Wisconsin in partnership with FoxConn, but what is going to be made there is still up in the air.
Apple has built six multi-Billion dollar server farms in the United States in the past five years. . . and is building more, and expanding the six it already has. Apple just completed building a $5 Billion headquarters building in Cupertino and recently broke ground on Campus 3, also in Cupertino, for additional research and development space, as well as keeping their original headquarters at 1 infinite loop.
Designed in America? What in the world does that even mean?
It means exactly that. Apple designs everything about its products they can. They design their processors and the GPUs in their mobile devices by hand, the OLED used in the iPhone X may be being made by Samsung, but it was designed by Apple engineers in Cupertino, Ca. All of the operating system was designed and programmed by Apple in the USA. Apple even design the CNC machine tools its subcontractors will use on their assembly lines to make Apple’s devices.
Android phones are essentially made to reference designs with off the shelf components supplied by the lowest bidder.
As for Trump, Apple was talking with Trump about the Wisconsin expansion in early June even before he sewed up the Republican Presidential nomination. . . just as Trump was already talking to Carrier and Ford.
Thanks.
You have great posts. I enjoy reading them, and you are (quite) knowledgeable.
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