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Political Battle Battle Over Dossiers,FISA,Surveilance (trunc) (Clapper no FISA?)
CTH ^ | 1/10/18 | Sundance

Posted on 01/10/2018 12:41:14 AM PST by Be Careful

IMPORTANT – We are no longer taking it for granted a FISA warrant was ever given to the DOJ because NO-ONE can prove a FISA warrant exists.IF THERE WAS a FISA Warrant issued against the Trump Campaign, or Trump Officials, by the FBI (Counterintelligence Unit), or DOJ (National Security Division), James Clapper would have to be notified of it.

Now, let’s look at what happens when James Clapper is questioned about the FISA Warrant, as he explains on NBC March 5th 2017. This is TWO WEEKS BEFORE the James Comey testimony to congress on March 20th.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 20170305; clapper; comeyrico; dojrico; fbirico; fbisedition; fbitreason; fisa; fisarico; fisawarrant; jamesclapper; mediawingofthednc; nofisawarrant; partisanmediashills; sedition; steeledossier; sundance; treason; trumprussia; trumpsurveillance
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I cobbled two paragraphs together from this very long article in order to highlight the upshot and create this excerpt. If this is true......Holy Mackeral.......No wonder Sundance inserted the words “Hi James” into his article that was posted yesterday.
1 posted on 01/10/2018 12:41:14 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Be Careful

I’m not getting it, but just to be sure why don’t they subpoena the FISA judges at the time and go ask the people who would have to provide it. I’ve been following this story closely on CTH and see the same basic article day after day with a sentence or two changed or the material facts presented in a different manner.

CTH has to stop playing this cat and mouse with what it is saying. There are only four options, the FISA warrant is there or it is not, the Fisa warrant has not been provided or it has not. It’s not like the Schrödinger’s cat problem.

It’s better to be clear and concise and declaratory. Is there or is there not a Fisa warrant? Then present multiple conclusions instead of a vague tautology with a wink and a nod implying they figured it out and we ought to ourselves.


2 posted on 01/10/2018 1:19:34 AM PST by Fhios
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To: Be Careful

Bump!


3 posted on 01/10/2018 1:38:40 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Fhios

I think that he is doing a great job of aggregating vast amounts of complex data....and creating a story board that we can both reference and follow.

The depth of corruption is so mind blowing that I am appreciative of the amount of detail that he provides so that I can connect the dots in my own way.

So far, I think that CTH is the best and most reliable clearinghouse of information while we watch all of this unfold

He won’t make knee jerk conclusions because this whole thing is so fluid.


5 posted on 01/10/2018 1:43:19 AM PST by Be Careful
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To: Fhios
From the article:

IMPORTANT – We are no longer taking it for granted a FISA warrant was ever given to the DOJ because NO-ONE can prove a FISA warrant exists. Heck, no-one can even point to anything that directly claims a FISA warrant was even requested. There are inferences, suspicions, media reports based on anonymous leaks, but no direct or reasonable evidence beyond innuendo. We are eighteen months past the reported origination dates, and there’s not a single official who will state a 2016 FISA warrant was applied for or granted. Therefore we must begin to question that basic assumption.

That said, the inability to prove the existence of a FISA warrant does not prove a FISA warrant doesn’t exist. Additionally, the cloud-of-uncertainty conveniently, perhaps purposely, makes it challenging to outline the liars within the intelligence community.

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These criminals have some tight lips. No one wants to swing from a rope in the future.

6 posted on 01/10/2018 1:45:26 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: Be Careful

At the very end of this superb column:

“The ENTIRE SYSTEM of surveillance and data collection was weaponized against a political campaign. There were no authorizing or accompanying FISA warrants.”

I hope Victor Davis Hanson or another equally brilliant light soon puts these crimes in historical perspective. A dozen or so men and women sought to destroy our constitutional order. Imagine if they got away with it? After eight years of president Hillary, what would be the chances of a non-rat replacement?

The electoral college system saved the sorry remains of our republic. For the sake of our continued existence, these criminals must fry.


7 posted on 01/10/2018 1:47:25 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Be Careful

Oh, and three black people are part of the conspiracy: Lynch, Rice and Obama. Will the congressional and legal systems allow their just punishment, or will the threat of burning cities preclude justice?


8 posted on 01/10/2018 1:51:38 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Post5203

I get upset about stuff, then I learn there is some administrative rule or law that prevents them from talking. I would think that a FISA Judge can’t talk about the applications. Would they even have a record or are all records in one place.


9 posted on 01/10/2018 1:54:17 AM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Fhios

What sundance is hinting at ...What if there was no warrant ... but they spied on Trump without one..


10 posted on 01/10/2018 2:06:17 AM PST by Dog (..."I'm just a cook....")
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To: Jacquerie

Bingo....if thats what happened. . its a whole new ballgame...mind blowing stuff.


11 posted on 01/10/2018 2:09:00 AM PST by Dog (..."I'm just a cook....")
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To: Jacquerie

Four black people if you include Eric Holder
Five if Valerie Jarret is pulled, hissing, from her viper’s den in Kalorama


12 posted on 01/10/2018 2:28:31 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Post5203

Buy stock in rope companies.


13 posted on 01/10/2018 3:10:47 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Be Careful

Holy Cow Batman. BFL. This is YUUUUUUGE. Sundance is the man.


14 posted on 01/10/2018 3:20:40 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: ImNotLying

The pieces of the puzzle are laid out so well by Sundance that even a ten year old could put it together.


15 posted on 01/10/2018 3:22:48 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: Be Careful

bmp


16 posted on 01/10/2018 3:50:09 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: silverleaf

For some reason(probably lies) they think all whites are on the take, they may as well get a piece of their pie..whitey does it ya know....some truuf to that sadly, does not make it right


17 posted on 01/10/2018 3:54:25 AM PST by aces
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To: Be Careful

This is treason.


18 posted on 01/10/2018 3:58:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: Post5203

What if they applied for the second warrant, but the judge didn’t approve it? Then the judge recused himself from the Flynn case with this knowledge.


19 posted on 01/10/2018 3:59:33 AM PST by Beach333
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To: Be Careful
Sundance......You are AMAZING!! I clicked on your link and NO ONE has that much info other than YOU!! THANK YOU!!!

The NOOSE Tightens!!

20 posted on 01/10/2018 4:10:00 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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