Political Battle Battle Over Dossiers,FISA,Surveilance (trunc) (Clapper no FISA?)

CTH ^ | 1/10/18 | Sundance

[Liz]

There are 62 million of us, who voted for President Trump. We own most of the guns in America, most of the ammo. We know how to use our guns and ammo, if they try to illegally impeach our President.

Heh....love it.

[Liz]

There are 62 million of us, who voted for President Trump. We own most of the guns in America, most of the ammo. We know how to use our guns and ammo, if they try to illegally impeach our President.

Heh....love it.

[Grampa Dave]

Thank you for your posts on this critical issue.

[Liz]

[Triple]

Senior DOJ, National Security Division- Carlin(?) resigned on October 16, 2017.

IMO this makes him the likely John Dean. He knows all. Is he telling all? I think so.

Add him to your excellent graphic?

[piasa]

Good question

[bitt]

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[independentmind]

I have read that people who have access about information related to FISA warrants are not allowed to publicly discuss what they know, or even address the subject.

The issue about Clapper saying he had no knowledge of any FISA warrants is an interesting twist. Unfortunately, he already has a track record of being dishonest under oath.

[independentmind]

I have read that people who have access about information related to FISA warrants are not allowed to publicly discuss what they know, or even address the subject.

The issue about Clapper saying he had no knowledge of any FISA warrants is an interesting twist. Unfortunately, he already has a track record of being dishonest under oath.

[independentmind]

I just read recently that VJ took a position with University of Chicago. She most likely isn’t staying in Kalorama any more.

[ptsal]

This problem runs much deeper and wider...

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I think that most of the conspirators are going to point at Strzok and Page as the only real renegades...

[jjotto]

It might be a no show job. “Distinguished Senior Fellow”. VJ’s father was a bigwig at U of Chicago Medical.

[ptsal]

Using your assumption: The Obama administration used the NSA intelligence whenever it was needed to obtain their end. The end always justified the means, legal or otHerwise. I firmly believe that Chief Justice John Roberts was spied on and blackmailed into making his decision on Obamacare favorable to the Obama needs.

If I recall correctly, the CJ was supervising the individual in charge of the FISA court, but that individual has been handling the cases involving Hillary's email and then was "recused" from the Flynn matter. Is or was there a link between the Supreme Court and the upper echelon of the DOJ?

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

So far, all of Mueller's court filings have been either plea deals, which will not be challenged in court; or before the 2016 campaign, which we can assume does not contain any evidence gathered from the FISA warrant.

This may be a coincidence, but it means that nothing gathered from that counterintelligence investigation will be turned over to a defendant, and will not be entered as evidence in court.

It could be that Mueller has no way of introducing that evidence without having to reveal the probable cause presented to obtain the evidence.

[John S Mosby]

It was Andrew Napolitano who first posited (from his sources, btw) that it was British GCHQ guys who have an office AT the NSA, who were asked by Lynch for the info. Hugely illegal.

Your list is fine until the last point. It could all be a “leaking” matched to a surveillance to create a non-reality. But importantly- Admiral Rogers visited Trump the week after the election, and Clapper, Brennan and Comey screamed bloody murder. Rogers knows and knew where all the bodies were/are buried, including this GCHQ part of the “Five Eyes” intel relationship. Rogers did the right thing, and Trump knows everything about that now.

One good question is- are the deep state people feeding him bullcrap now and calling it “intelligence” even as they try to shape our policy?

[UCANSEE2]

Which is why two heads are better than one.

[DrDude]

Sounds like an analogy to Gorelic’s Wall. Make up an excuse and let the Repubs bitch for a few years. By then everything will be reported and a “Finding” we will have.

[PMAS]

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[Travis McGee]

He’s on the bottom right.