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Instead of decriminalizing, and allowing Americans the same kind of respect that other nations have regarding medicine access... they are going to make it more difficult to treat yourself.
1 posted on 12/21/2017 1:42:58 AM PST by vannrox
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I thought President Trump was all about dropping regulations. I thought dropping the Obamacare mandate is for many people about regaining control of their bodies. Why is the FDA doing this? Could it be a favor to pharmaceutical companies? Prices for their poisons would go down now that there will be meaningful competition without insurance companies propping up prices.


2 posted on 12/21/2017 1:49:36 AM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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Starts right out with a false statement:

“Alternative remedies like homeopathic treatments have become popular in recent years”

Homeopathy has been used for hundreds of years in Europe.

This is an another easily recognizable propagandistic attack by the medical industry on anything that cuts into their Ritalin-Prozac-shock treatment-drug em to the gills operation.


3 posted on 12/21/2017 1:58:00 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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Arnica montana reduces swelling from injuries like magic.

Hypericum perforatum reduces nerve pains. Taking it before and after you have your teeth drilled works better than any other method. It also reduces migraine headaches.

The homeopathic remedies for poison oak and poiaon ivy are far superior to any other treatment.


4 posted on 12/21/2017 2:01:19 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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Will this effect my traditional Chinese Herb Doctor?


7 posted on 12/21/2017 2:21:54 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (NOT TITO)
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Women are drinking large quantities of “medicinal teas” and serving their families “essential oils” in the food they prepare and the hygiene products they create. And then when someone gets sick Mom doubles down on her voodoo until the Emergency Room is the last hope. I understand there is “a sucker born every minute” and, with a little legitimate research, the dangers are already knowable, but a little sunshine on the underbelly of this unregulated beast could save a lot of people money and health.


10 posted on 12/21/2017 2:38:39 AM PST by greatvikingone
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Good. It’s about time.

FWIW, the FDA isn’t banning homeopathic OTC’s. But what they are proposing will be to “more carefully scrutinize these products, especially those sold to treat infants and children, those containing ingredients with significant safety concerns, such as belladonna, and those sold for serious conditions such as opioid addiction, heart disease and cancer.”

“During a briefing for reporters about the proposed new policy, FDA officials stressed that the agency had no intention of requiring most homeopathic products that are on the market to undergo formal FDA review, however, or to remove most homeopathic products. So people who believe such products help them will still have access to many of them, the officials said.”

I.e. if a homeopathic OTC has something like belladonna (deadly nightshade) in it and or is marketed to children such as the teething tablets that killed 10 babies and injured at least 400, if I understand correctly, that type of product will have to meet manufacturing and labeling standards as would a true pharmaceutical, as it should.

What people don’t understand is that since 1988, the homeopathic medicinal industry has gone completely unregulated. The teething pills that contain a miniscule amount of belladonna in one batch was found to have contain dangerous levels in the next. Or even contain ingredients not on the label. One has to be careful in the regard with herbal supplements. In addition, a homeopathic medicinal can make claims to treat or even cure serious medical conditions with absolutely no proof that it does, leading some to believe their condition is being treated and forgoing actual treatment.

So this will not affect those of you taking things like turmeric or herbal remedies or even most homeopathic medicinals.

FWIW, I think homeopathy is quackery in that if it is truly homeopathic, the so called active ingredient, the one that supposedly causes symptoms similar to that of the disease or condition it is “treating” is diluted to the point of often not containing a single molecule of the “active” ingredient or so small as to be negligible, but homeopaths claim the water retains a “memory” of some sort. But since homeopathic concoctions aren’t regulated at all, they can also contain ingredients not so diluted such as the belladonna in the teething tablets.

18 posted on 12/21/2017 3:34:20 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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I do not believe homeopathy or naturopathy should be subject to FDA authority.


19 posted on 12/21/2017 3:36:16 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like?)
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I like homeopathic. I think it is part of America. FREEDOM. My ancestors were snake oil salesman, and one of his sons discovered new scientific ways to anesthetize. Let people take shark cartilage and drink apricot seeds, and if they want to do herbs, it probably works just as good as some of these toxic poisons coming out of labs.,


23 posted on 12/21/2017 3:57:51 AM PST by rovenstinez
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Leave. Kratom. Alone.

Kratom is freeing heroin addicts from their cravings. I work with addicts in recovery. It works. Pharma wants to ban it.


28 posted on 12/21/2017 4:37:24 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Drone Soros and sons!!!)
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I have no problem with adults making their decisions on what some call medicine. But the abuse of children is a different story. The line must be drawn to protect the innocent too young to make their own decisions. I know several people that went to west Africa during the Ebola epidemic. They witnessed up close the alternative medicine in those countries. We dumped more than 2 billion tacxpayer dollars into stopping this deadly virus. We probably should allow the culling of the herd, especially in foreign nations.


32 posted on 12/21/2017 4:42:37 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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Conventional medicine claims homeopathic remedies are nothing but water and make believe, so how can they be “risky”? If they are “risky”, then conventional medicine is admitting that homeopathic medicines are real.


65 posted on 12/21/2017 6:32:05 AM PST by captain_dave
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Because homeopathic remedies can’t be patented. You can thank big pharma.


72 posted on 12/21/2017 8:44:22 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Bkmk


76 posted on 12/21/2017 9:16:24 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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Maybe there’s room for a little balance in all this:

https://www.realclearscience.com/quick_and_clear_science/2017/12/19/yogi_detox_tea_linked_to_womans_liver_failure_and_death.html

This lady died and the doctors treating her are pretty certain it was because of Yogi Detox Tea combined with the wine she consumed regularly. Fourteen days on the tea as per recommendations and her liver was shot.

Maybe the doctors missed something or maybe they’re on the drug companies’ payroll, but maybe they’re right too. It doesn’t seem too much to ask to have the government do some checking into it, does it?

Also, a personal story. I have liver damage that was found as an incidental finding when being assessed for a separate condition. So I saw a liver specialist. I had been on several supplements, none of which probably caused the liver damage (one lobe, the small one, had just shut down. The rest is fine, so I’m fine. You don’d need your entire liver, as it turns out.)

But the liver specialist started the conversation with “I’m only going to tell you this once, here at the outset. A large percentage of my patients come to me with damage caused by non-prescription supplements that they’re taking on their own.” This doctor only sees patients with liver problems for a living. Something to consider.


80 posted on 12/21/2017 11:59:16 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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My mother was a great believer in alternative medicine, blew thousands of dollars on them, then she took Garlique instead of her prescribed blood thinner.

She’s dead now.

I kinda think purveyors of alternative medicinals should have to meet the same requirements as purveyors of modern mainstream medicine.


83 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:55 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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Nothing “recent” about homoeopathic remedies. They have been used in the US since before the first medical school opened.

Thompson advocated heavy use of cayenne.


86 posted on 12/21/2017 2:55:40 PM PST by truth_seeker
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94 posted on 12/26/2017 1:04:12 PM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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May cause harm? May?

No, unless the FDA has firm evidence, they should be allowed to do nothing.


106 posted on 01/03/2018 3:01:55 PM PST by savedbygrace
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But the Food and Drug Administration will begin scrutinizing products that could be dangerous to vulnerable populations have an impact on big pharma's bottom line.
107 posted on 01/03/2018 3:03:00 PM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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