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FDA Announces Plans to Target Risky Homeopathic Remedies
PJ Media ^ | DECEMBER 20, 2017 | LAUREN SPAGNOLETTI

Posted on 12/21/2017 1:42:58 AM PST by vannrox

Alternative remedies like homeopathic treatments have become popular in recent years and now make up a $3 billion industry. But the Food and Drug Administration will begin scrutinizing products that could be dangerous to vulnerable populations.

Many homeopathic remedies are derived from plants and claim to treat everything from the common cold to serious diseases. But the FDA fears that these products can "bring little to no benefit in combating serious ailments, or worse — may cause significant and even irreparable harm because the products are poorly manufactured, or contain active ingredients that aren’t adequately tested or disclosed to patients," according to FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb.

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To: Neoliberalnot
What is your profession?

My profession has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a particular treatment is effective in treating specific health issues.

81 posted on 12/21/2017 12:01:26 PM PST by Will88
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To: MD Expat in PA

I do not trust the FDA any more than many other government agencies. From the information put out, I do not see any real criteria for what the limits of their regulation would be, nor any exclusions.

And based on past efforts, this caution is reasonable.

In past, some advocates have said that non-culinary spice herbs should be regulated, required to have standardized active ingredients, and sold only in measured doses, aka pill form.

Others have said that vitamins should be available by prescription only.

Still others would require that all OTC supplements undergo the rigorous and exorbitantly expensive approval process, which almost none would be willing to pay for, it taking decades just to recover the expense.

Nonsense like this, and many other past abuses, are why this policy should not be respected until it is put into print. Having worked as a bureaucrat, I do not trust other bureaucrats who claim to be invested only in the public good.


82 posted on 12/21/2017 12:40:07 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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To: vannrox

My mother was a great believer in alternative medicine, blew thousands of dollars on them, then she took Garlique instead of her prescribed blood thinner.

She’s dead now.

I kinda think purveyors of alternative medicinals should have to meet the same requirements as purveyors of modern mainstream medicine.


83 posted on 12/21/2017 1:01:55 PM PST by Valpal1 (I am grown weary.)
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To: Will88

My profession has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not a particular treatment is effective in treating specific health issues.””

Really. I thought perhaps your judgement might be a little off since you are maybe not as qualified as you think you are to assess treatment efficacy. You must be the guy sitting on the armchair, the general who should be running the war. I just asked a simple question, what have you to hide?


84 posted on 12/21/2017 2:43:26 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: Neoliberalnot

Lol, please describe the qualifications you think are necessary for an individual to know whether the pain of shoulder bursitis has improved or not.


85 posted on 12/21/2017 2:51:19 PM PST by Will88
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To: vannrox

Nothing “recent” about homoeopathic remedies. They have been used in the US since before the first medical school opened.

Thompson advocated heavy use of cayenne.


86 posted on 12/21/2017 2:55:40 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Will88

Here’s the deal Will, because you took something and your shoulder got better does not prove cause and effect. I ruptured a disc in my lower back many years ago when struggling with a coupler on a tractor disc, took a few ibuprofen for a time and slept on the floor for a week or so. It eventually cleared up but the ibuprofen had little effect and it certainly wasn’t curative. i hope your bursitis gets better but aging is not a friendly foe.


87 posted on 12/21/2017 3:42:37 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: grania

I agree with you. It’s un-American to go after shysters.

Now, I’m off to my alchemy class (I teach it), my astrology seminar, and to sell shares in my perpetual motion machine.

Oh, and here’s a bottle of homeopathic water, for only 25 dollars! My chiropractor uses it to cure cancer.


88 posted on 12/21/2017 3:45:01 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: sparklite2

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89 posted on 12/21/2017 4:27:22 PM PST by grania (Deplorable and Proud of It!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I thought FR was about personal freedom.


That sounds awfully libertarian. ... ;)


90 posted on 12/21/2017 4:45:43 PM PST by sparklite2 (I hereby designate the ongoing kerfuffle Diddle-Gate.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“. I ruptured a disc in my lower back many years ago when struggling with a coupler on a tractor disc, took a few ibuprofen for a time and slept on the floor for a week or so. It eventually cleared up but the ibuprofen had little effect.”

Lemme get this straight. You ruptured a disc in your back and sleeping on the floor and taking ibuprofen it “cleared up” in a week or so? You either

1. didn’t have a ruptured disc.

2. found a miracle cure for ruptured discs.

I think you meant to say you had a herniated disc. Those can heal.

A ruptured disc can heal like a popped balloon can re-inflate.


91 posted on 12/26/2017 12:37:33 PM PST by Justa
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To: Justa

I’m relaying what was later revealed with a radiograph. The rupture itself was quite audible and memorable. An event that I haven’t forgotten. Many people, especially farmers and other manual laborers rupture discs and never opt for surgery. Let’s keep in mind that back surgeons are a relatively new type of surgeon.


92 posted on 12/26/2017 12:49:14 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: Neoliberalnot
But, what people are putting into the bodies of innocent children and pregnant women is a different deal. Often, what is non-traditional is not synonymous with medicine, at all. My friends that went to west Africa during the Ebola epidemic have seen many results of non-traditional “medicine.” It is not a rosy picture. Do you have faith in anything you do not understand?

Pregnant women? Who is putting stuff into pregnant women against their will? And who are you to tell other people how they should treat their children? I suppose you have no problem with a pediatrician dosing children with 30+ vaccines before they're a year old with who knows what kind of ingredients included, when their immature immune systems are not even able to produce IgG antibodies yet.

How about you mind your own family and let others do the same?

93 posted on 12/26/2017 12:58:11 PM PST by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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94 posted on 12/26/2017 1:04:12 PM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: Shethink13
It is amazing how alleged conservatives become big government advocates on this matter. Homeopathy may be ineffective in some cases. But when you consider that medical malpractice is the third leading cause of death in the United States, mainstream medicine has plenty of risk. The bottom line is that people should have the option of selecting mainstream or alternative medicine.
95 posted on 12/26/2017 1:46:55 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.; Shethink13

Did it occur to you that people go to the hospital when they are near death. They simply go there to die. And just because some lawyer is ready to take advantage of the families of people who die doesn’t make it malpractice—it makes tragedy a lawyers goldmine. Homeopathy is not medicine, it’s snake oil based on nothing.


96 posted on 12/26/2017 7:26:44 PM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: Neoliberalnot
There is corruption in the legal system, as there is corruption in the medical system. The former is a function of government; the latter, while largely privately owned, is heavily regulated and controlled by government. Major players, like pharmaceutical companies, have great influence over the bureaucratic and legislative process. As the numerous Clinton scandals, not to mention countless politicians from time immemorial, money talks, indeed screams. The former is akin to socialism, the latter is crony capitalism. If you distrust the legal system, do you then trust the medical system?

Remember that the dogmas of the medical community change constantly. A hundred and fifty years ago, what is now considered common hygiene practice was regarded as unnecessary. Seventy years ago, tobacco smoking was seen as relatively harmless. Twenty years ago, low fat, high carbohydrate diets were treated as gospel truth. The shifting sands of mainstream medical dogma do not make alternative medicine true. However, state and Federally government power should be restrained for both mainstream and alternative medicine. If people can be trusted to choose what bread, beer, pants, or appliances they may buy, they should be trusted to make crucial choices in the medical field.

97 posted on 12/27/2017 7:47:51 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Wallace T.

There is corruption in the legal system, as there is corruption in the medical system. The former is a function of government; the latter, while largely privately owned, is heavily regulated and controlled by government. Major players, like pharmaceutical companies, have great influence over the bureaucratic and legislative process. As the numerous Clinton scandals, not to mention countless politicians from time immemorial, money talks, indeed screams. The former is akin to socialism, the latter is crony capitalism. If you distrust the legal system, do you then trust the medical system?
Remember that the dogmas of the medical community change constantly. A hundred and fifty years ago, what is now considered common hygiene practice was regarded as unnecessary. Seventy years ago, tobacco smoking was seen as relatively harmless. Twenty years ago, low fat, high carbohydrate diets were treated as gospel truth. The shifting sands of mainstream medical dogma do not make alternative medicine true. However, state and Federally government power should be restrained for both mainstream and alternative medicine. If people can be trusted to choose what bread, beer, pants, or appliances they may buy, they should be trusted to make crucial choices in the medical field.””

Trust in doctors, as with most scientists, has always been regarded far above trust in lawyers. The list of the misdeeds in the legal profession is too long to review in a single comment; judges taking bribes, sending innocent people to prison, extorting a piece of every business, making a 100,000 regulations-laws-rules for their own benefit, to the complete fabrication of legal attacks on innocent people, to a single contemptible lawyer in a blackrobe throwing out millions of votes for political gain. I’ve sat across the courtroom and watched too many times to stomach watching these shysters put together a string of legal lies to make me wretch for a week. They shysters run every branch of government and are responsible for putting us in this mess called the DC empire. No one can escape their tentacles, no one.

On your side, no one is forcing you to buy pharmaceuticals, or to attend a doctors office.


98 posted on 12/27/2017 8:24:20 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS...)
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To: Neoliberalnot
You assume incorrectly that I am a full advocate of alternative medicine. It has its flaws, but so does mainstream medicine. I am somewhat agnostic with respect to either side. However, the medical profession is no more a sacred priesthood than the legal profession, or for that matter, the Christian clergy.

The process by which NutraSweet was approved is typical of government and industry collusion. Despite strong evidence of the product’s detrimental effects, the FDA approved its use, largely due to the influence of lobbyists, notably Donald Rumsfeld, who later served as Defense Secretary under the younger Bush. On the approval of Celebrex, Vioxx, and Bextra, 10 of the 32 members of the FDA panel had served as consultants for the manufacturers of the drugs. Corruption in the courts creates unjust and excessive fines and imprisonment. Corruption in the medical system can lead to loss of life and lowered. quality of life.

Any human institution is capable of corruption and quite frequently degenerates into corruption. Our Federal government has zero resemblance to what the Framers of the Constitution intended, not even the most statist of them, like Alexander Hamilton. America needs radical decentralization. As church and state are separated, so should medicine and state.

99 posted on 12/28/2017 9:34:05 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Neoliberalnot
You assume incorrectly that I am a full advocate of alternative medicine. It has its flaws, but so does mainstream medicine. I am somewhat agnostic with respect to either side. However, the medical profession is no more a sacred priesthood than the legal profession, or for that matter, the Christian clergy.

The process by which NutraSweet was approved is typical of government and industry collusion. Despite strong evidence of the product’s detrimental effects, the FDA approved its use, largely due to the influence of lobbyists, notably Donald Rumsfeld, who later served as Defense Secretary under the younger Bush. On the approval of Celebrex, Vioxx, and Bextra, 10 of the 32 members of the FDA panel had served as consultants for the manufacturers of the drugs. Corruption in the courts creates unjust and excessive fines and imprisonment. Corruption in the medical system can lead to loss of life and lowered. quality of life.

Any human institution is capable of corruption and quite frequently degenerates into corruption. Our Federal government has zero resemblance to what the Framers of the Constitution intended, not even the most statist of them, like Alexander Hamilton. America needs radical decentralization. As church and state are separated, so should medicine and state.

100 posted on 12/28/2017 9:34:06 AM PST by Wallace T.
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