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New York Safe Act: Renew Your Permit and Register All Your Guns or Face Confiscation
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12/16/17 | Robert Farago

Posted on 12/16/2017 5:06:54 PM PST by Simon Green

Greg Camp writes [via ammoland.com]: The badly named New York SAFE Act continues to make the life of the state’s law-abiding gun owners difficult. Residents who are deemed worthy of a pistol permit – permission to own in their homes, to carry to hunting or target shooting, or carry generally, depending on the good graces of law enforcement – that were issued prior to January 2013 must get them renewed or risk having their weapons confiscated.

Governor Cuomo believes that “when they write the history books they’re going to say, ‘New York got it right,’” whoever “they” might be – perhaps he is preparing copy for the Ministry of Truth. The state legislature predictably placed the burden of getting the word out on county law enforcement agencies, and those people who live in New York City or surrounding counties can’t use the state police website to renew.

The law was passed in a hurry over the objections of sheriffs and county clerks. The original seven-round magazine capacity limit got tossed out in court, while most of the provisions have taken effect. But many owners of so-called assault weapons in the state are refusing to register them, suggesting that the spirit of liberty is alive even in one of the worst states for gun owners.

In the same way that the USA PATRIOT Act was a knee-jerk response to 9/11, the NY SAFE Act came as an effort to look busy after the Sandy Hook school shooting, an example of politicians’ belief that punishing people who did no wrong will somehow prevent such incidents in the future.

If the non-compliance in New York isn’t enough to show that a total ban and mandatory confiscation of “assault weapons” would fail, consider the fact that there are millions of AR-15s in circulation alone, not to mention the many other models of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines out there.

And if by some perverse miracle good people could be convinced to hand in their guns, Americans who are already criminals aren’t likely to change their ways by being asked, and enough of them specialize in bringing contraband into the country to make effective control of “assault weapons” a pipe dream. Those pipes could be filled with the drugs that are used to conceal guns as they cross the borders.

The reality that gun control advocates refuse to admit is that the only outcome of their demands would be increased harassment of people who aren’t harming anyone. It’s hard not to believe that this is exactly the purpose of such proposals.

We live in a nation that is the main stage of security theater, the promise that if we will take off our shoes to get on an airplane, hand over our drivers’ licenses to buy cold medicine, and tolerate bans and restrictions on a constitutionally enumerated right to save the children, the Millennium will arrive, and we will all be at peace.

Except that plenty of nations have strict gun control and homicide rates that are far higher than ours. And some nations with strict gun laws have rates that are lower than ours. The classic saying is that correlation doesn’t prove causation, but when correlation doesn’t exist, there certainly isn’t evidence for a cause.

This doesn’t stop the advocates of control, and it’s up to those of us who care about rights to say no, to remind our elected leaders that their jobs depend on protecting rather than violating those rights.

To Review: if you have a pistol permit in NY acquired before 2013, no matter how many years ago you received it, you need to reapply by the Jan. 31, 2018, deadline or lose your permit. Contact your local county clerk’s office and thank Gov. Andrew Cuomo for the New York SAFE Act next time he is up for vote.

PS: Did I mention that with your new application you also have to include a list of all pistols and revolvers you currently possess, including the associated make, model, caliber and serial number(s), you know for the safety of the children…


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
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To: CatOwner

As too.


41 posted on 12/16/2017 6:32:12 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Wonder how much compliance they will get.

Most likely pretty damned close to 100%.

The sheeple of that particular state have already shown that they will tolerate the creeping restrictions.

The Sullivan Act (I know, it only applies in NYC proper) is the most restrictive, rights-violating piece of garbage legislation known to 2AD supporters...yet, the people allow it to continue to rule their lives.

The DA of NYC, that smelly turd of a man named Cyrus Vance, lives for gun and knife prosecutions and his tame magistrates are right there with him with a "No Tolerance" policy.

Does Cyrus Vance have a concealed weapons permit?

But of course...and it's really not your business as to what HE does, you will do as he says and as the Goobner says to do and if Hizzoner Da Mayor decrees, you will polish his boots for him, too.

Cyrus Vance and his machinations spill over into the rest of the state as many municipalities just flat out deny a concealed weapon permit...no reason given and none has to be given.

Do not get stopped by a NYC State Trooper and have a pocket knife with a clip on it in your pocket.

Simply having the clip on it is considered "concealing a deadly weapon", no matter how big or what type it is and has been argued successfully in front of tame judges to be a weapon of mass destruction and serves to provide probable cause for a full search of your vehicle and your person.

And walk down the streets of that slime pit, NYC and let a member of the city's Finest see a pocket clip.

Your 4th Amendment rights went right out the window...as he will stop you and physically remove the item with the clip on it from your pocket, because he has been told that the clip in and of itself is prima facie evidence of your intent to kill him and at least 3000 other people with it.

And if he can "Wrist Flick" it and open it...you for damn sure are going to jail, for you have a, GASP!,...a dangerous switchblade, which, the mere presence of will most likely cause several around you to just burst out in uncontrolled bleeding and die.

Never mind the fact that it usually takes much practice for anyone to "Wrist Flick" a particular knife with some regularity, if he gets lucky in his repeated attempts to "Wrist Flick", he hit the jack-pot and you go to jail.

NY does not get to suspend the 2nd Amendment.

Oh, no...they would never "Suspend" it...they just flat out ignore it...and the 4th and the 5th and probably a few more.

New York...working hard to be as big of a shit hole as California already is.

42 posted on 12/16/2017 6:32:39 PM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: jonascord

Smuggled....
That’s the Ticket!


43 posted on 12/16/2017 6:39:34 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: OldSmaj

Thanks for the heads up. I will never visit New York.


44 posted on 12/16/2017 6:41:28 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: TigersEye

Too many politicians


45 posted on 12/16/2017 6:57:00 PM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: BenLurkin
Who is this supposed to make “safe”?

The protected class...........criminals.

46 posted on 12/16/2017 6:57:06 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ptsal

Too many Harry Reids!


47 posted on 12/16/2017 7:00:21 PM PST by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: null and void

I live in a part of Pennsylvania where it’s mostly occupied by displaced New Yorkers.

Don’t invite them to live in your town. Just don’t. It ain’t worth it.


48 posted on 12/16/2017 7:21:55 PM PST by Celerity
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To: null and void
Here in the Missouri Ozarks we enjoy low taxes, low cost of living, wild turkey, deer and fish year round, shoot your gun.
Did I mention low taxes ?
49 posted on 12/16/2017 7:26:52 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: null and void
Nevada.

until you recognize Colorado CHP i will not even visit there, much less move there.

50 posted on 12/16/2017 7:33:08 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: CatOwner

Even Law Enforcement In NYS has had a tough time understanding this unconstitutional “law”,since its inception. The bottom line is registration= confiscation.


51 posted on 12/16/2017 7:33:37 PM PST by MGunny
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To: bravo whiskey

As a former Cop in NY, I am a proponent of gun ownership. The SAFE Act is 100% unconstitutional. I was never involved in confiscation of any firearm possessed by a law abiding citizen. Hopefully the tables will turn and these leftist poli5icians getter boot.


52 posted on 12/16/2017 7:44:23 PM PST by MGunny
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To: faithhopecharity

Las Vegas is the tail that wags the Nevada dog.

Not quite sure how we’ll fix that.

Gun ownership is as safe here as anywhere. (That’s called damning with faint praise)...


53 posted on 12/16/2017 7:46:39 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Celerity

I didn’t invite New Yorkers, I invited FReepers.


54 posted on 12/16/2017 7:58:42 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

We have no state income tax here.


55 posted on 12/16/2017 7:59:33 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: bravo whiskey

I hope that time is near.


56 posted on 12/16/2017 8:00:07 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void

well, that Bloomberg financed vote while very close was scary —??? I know people you’d like maybe in Nevada who are scared away by the prospects of “gun control?” They plan to maybe go to Texas or Wyoming instead - what can we tell them about Nevada to maybe get them to reconsider Carson city or Elko or tomopah? Thanks!


57 posted on 12/16/2017 8:00:46 PM PST by faithhopecharity (“Politicians aren’t born, they’re excreted.” - Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

Hmmmm. We’ve got brothels?


58 posted on 12/16/2017 8:01:59 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: Simon Green

Row, row, row your boat gently down the steam


59 posted on 12/16/2017 8:19:17 PM PST by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: null and void

We have permit less conceal carry in Arizona


60 posted on 12/16/2017 8:21:53 PM PST by clamper1797 (We are getting close to the last "box")
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