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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This smells of double jeopardy. We should take the Constitution for what it says, it’s all about defending the Constitution. Trying to wiggle around it is not what I would call defending it.


11 posted on 12/01/2017 4:32:20 PM PST by Mark was here (Fake news = "Hands up ... Dont shoot")
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To: Mark was here

Double jeopardy for what?

San Francisco can’t try this POS for Federal crimes


13 posted on 12/01/2017 4:36:11 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("I am SpartaLee" Hey, NFL, why didn't you any of you bold guys hire Kaepernick? #GoodbyeGoodell)
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To: Mark was here
It's not all about "defending the Constitution" here.

This asshole should be treated as a foreign invader, processed as an enemy combatant out of uniform, and tried in a military court.

If Mexico wants him back, they can make a down payment of 30% of the cost of the wall.

If they don't want him back, he should be confined at Guantanamo Bay.

14 posted on 12/01/2017 4:36:49 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: Mark was here

I don’t see double jeopardy, if he’s being arrested for violating our immigration laws. That’s a separate issue from the murder charges.


15 posted on 12/01/2017 4:36:58 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Mark was here

No double jeopardy on the multiple illegal entries, he was NOT tried for those as they would have to bring those charges in federal court.

I agree on the other charges...I despise the idea of double jeopardy... I also feel that if a criminal case is lost then it should not be possible to bring a civil case in the same matter.

i.e. The civil case that was won against OJ, he was guilty as sin but that smelled of double jeopardy to me.


16 posted on 12/01/2017 4:37:39 PM PST by Bobalu (Build the Wall. Deport them ALL)
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To: Mark was here

Depends on the charge. Didn’t ICE put a hold on him that was ignored previously?


18 posted on 12/01/2017 4:40:28 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (#BuildKate'sWall)
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To: Mark was here
WTF?

No double jeopardy for being charged with repeated illegal entry as a felon since he was never charged with that in the first place, sorry.

21 posted on 12/01/2017 4:45:02 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Mark was here

This guy was brought up on State Charges. A person can always be brought up on federal charges if a evidence of a federal crime also exists. This is not a wiggle around, it has been a fact for a very long time.


23 posted on 12/01/2017 4:46:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: Mark was here

Different in kind chares do not constitute double jeopardy.


42 posted on 12/01/2017 4:56:40 PM PST by amihow
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To: Mark was here
This smells of double jeopardy. We should take the Constitution for what it says, it’s all about defending the Constitution. Trying to wiggle around it is not what I would call defending it.

Not at all. According to existing immigration law, illegal entry the first time is a misdemeanor. The second time and thereafter, it is a felony with up to 10 years in prison.

51 posted on 12/01/2017 5:04:01 PM PST by kabar
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To: Mark was here

This smells of double jeopardy. We should take the Constitution for what it says, it’s all about defending the Constitution. Trying to wiggle around it is not what I would call defending it.
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I’m sick of playing nice while the left gets to do whatever they want. If they can find a guilty man innocent just to rub their warped leftist ideology in Trump’s face, I say the Government has the moral right to do whatever it needs to do to see this murdering POS spends as much time as possible behind bars.


57 posted on 12/01/2017 5:08:17 PM PST by Pravious
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To: Mark was here
This smells of double jeopardy.

SCOTUS has ruled that a trial in state court and a trial in Federal court for the same crime are entirely different and don't violate "double jeopardy".There was a soldier a few years ago who was acquitted on a murder charge in state court but was then found guilty in a court martial.

IIRC he's awaiting the hot shot at Levenworth.

58 posted on 12/01/2017 5:08:31 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (ObamaCare Works For Those Who Don't.)
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To: Mark was here

Of course it is. This started in the late 60s when juries in the south let klan members off easy. So then we had federal trials for civil rights violation. Apparently if you murder someone and are found not guilty, then you violated their rights and the feds can try you for basically the same thing. This bastardization of the court system by liberals has allowed this to stand up to the USSC.

The simple answer is it is double jeopardy. The only solution to this situation now is to sentence him to the max on the possession charge, deport him, or some vigilante put a round in the back of his skull.


64 posted on 12/01/2017 5:15:04 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Mark was here
This smells of double jeopardy.

See my post #62


66 posted on 12/01/2017 5:16:07 PM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Remember: Diversity is the opposite of unity.)
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To: Mark was here

“This smells of double jeopardy”

I don’t care how many jeopardies it takes...just keep going until this democrat is executed.


74 posted on 12/01/2017 5:23:21 PM PST by Bonemaker (White Southerners have been under attack since 1860.)
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To: Mark was here

“We should take the Constitution for what it says, it’s all about defending the Constitution.”

So you want conservatives to fight a war using the Constitution, while the leftist Nazis stomp the Constitution into the ground and make up their own rules.

Good way to lose the battle, Mark was here.


94 posted on 12/01/2017 5:56:35 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Mark was here

The Constitution does not apply to illegal immigrants.


111 posted on 12/01/2017 6:17:25 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Mark was here

He is in violation of other laws, this isn’t about the murder charge.


142 posted on 12/01/2017 7:37:02 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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Last Updated Dec 1, 2017 7:34 PM EST
DEL RIO, Texas — An amended federal arrest warrant has been released for Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, a Mexican man acquitted Thursday in the killing of a woman on a San Francisco pier, a case that’s sparked national debate over immigration.

The warrant says Zarate violated his supervised release on a federal sentence for illegally re-entering the U.S. by possessing the gun that killed Kate Steinle on July 1, 2015. The warrant was originally issued July 14 of that year but an amended warrant was unsealed Friday following the verdict.

The warrant issued by the U.S. District Court for the western district of Texas says Zarate was sentenced in Texas on May 12, 2011 to 46 months in prison, followed by three years of supervised release, for illegally re-entering the U.S.

The warrant says the terms of the supervised release, which began March 26, 2015, barred Zarate from committing another crime and from possessing a firearm. He was still bound to the terms of that release when Steinle was shot and killed. Though he was acquitted of murder Thursday, he was found guilty of being a felon in possession of a firearm.


144 posted on 12/01/2017 7:53:54 PM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: Mark was here

It’s not double jeopardy if it’s not for the murder. It could easily be for the reentering the country 6 times etc.


158 posted on 12/01/2017 9:42:18 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Mark was here
He's not an American citizen , he has no constitutional rights . He likes it here so much let him live here In as Quentin . Triple jeopardy his ass for all I care. Murder is murder. He had the weapon , he admitted to shooting her. Kate doesn't get a dou le jeopardy at life. #maga 🇺🇸 Justice needs to be served either by the state or the 2nd amendment and whoever happens to be close by with a gun or better yet a knife. A message has to be sent . You don't come here and kill an American and live to talk about it.
162 posted on 12/02/2017 2:36:29 AM PST by BillyCuccio (MAGA)
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