What is a "Well-Regulated Militia?"

Byte-Size Politice ^ | 11/30/2017 | J. Wesley Bush

[Discoshaman]

A good, quick video on the militia clause of the Second Amendment in light of the Militia Acts of 1792, the Dick Act of 1903, and U.S. Code Article 10.

[WMarshal]

A Well-Regulated Militia:
Citizens who are willing to put into the ground those criminals in positions of authority who prey upon them.

[Discoshaman]

Bob434 -

I don’t think we’re disagreeing. My point was only that so many people don’t accept the Heller and MacDonald reasoning, so it’s useful to have other lines of attack.

[ichabod1]

It could be all that. Or it could be Ceaucesceau in Romania. We might all decide we’ve had enough and hang them all. Not that I would ever promote violence.

[doorgunner69]

Always been my understanding: being proficient with your arms.

[ichabod1]

Does that mean regulating to the point they have no ammunition for their arms? That was a trick Clinton used to play.

[dr_lew]

Well, you don’t have to convince me! BTW, I’ve never owned a gun in my life. ... Shot one in Boy Scouts ... well, I did shoot a .22 pistol into a board, once, under other circumstances ... so now I’m a warrior, you see!

[Bob434]

well they have to accept it- the Supreme court has ruled on it- I know they are trying to get a new ruling, but that will never happen as we now have a fairly solid conservative SC- and especially so if another lib activist SC judge retires-

Basically all we have to do is say “Speak to the hand... The court has ruled on this issue- and thankfully we have an inalienable right to self defense- Sorry- I know you libs don’t like it, but it’s a done deal”

And then say “And besides, a militia isn’t even close to what you think it is...”

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

the Dick Act of 1903

Ummm OK. Ron Jeremy's great-grandfather was the bill's author?

[Olog-hai]

The Richard Henry Lee writings in the Federal Farmer really expand on the “people themselves” concept. Besides, the Second Amendment is unambiguous about the right to keep and bear arms being that of the people and to never be infringed.

A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves, and render regular troops in a great measure unnecessary. The powers to form and arm the militia, to appoint their officers, and to command their services, are very important; nor ought they in a confederated republic to be lodged, solely, in any one member of the government.

First, the constitution ought to secure a genuine and guard against a select militia, by providing that the militia shall always be kept well organized, armed, and disciplined, and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms; and that all regulations tending to render this general militia useless and defenseless, by establishing select corps of militia or distinct bodies of military men not having permanent interests and attachments in the community, to be avoided. ….

Note the wariness of standing armies.

[867V309]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MATTUiz2TKc

This is the clearest explanation of the "militia" garbage that exists. Do not be mislead!

[Bob434]

I can’t find it now, but some states like NY actually have a clause or law or something that requires citizens to be ready to defend the state against either domestic or foreign enemies-

[eddie willers]

An armed group that eats prunes?

That's why we wore brown pants.

[WMarshal]

Revel in your cuckitude then. If Americans in the 18th century had possessed your roll-over bitch attitude then colonial Americans would have been worse off than the Irish victims of the English genocide during the Potato Famine.

The repercussions of America's victory in the Revolutionary War were not limited to America. If America had not kicked the shit out of the U.K. then the other colonies of the British Empire would have not been able to demand greater freedoms and natural rights from the U.K.

Make no mistake, after the U.S. Kicked the crap out of the British Empire the burden was on the rats of England to treat every one of their colonies better or risk America assisting and inspiring rebellions the world over.

[xkaydet65]

Think there might be a few 45+ Freepers who would not wish that the Militia Act be enforced literally.

[Sam_Damon]

This thread deserves some sort of pinning or flagging for quick reference.

Great stuff.

[txhurl]

You can add a keyword to tag it.

[Architect of Avalon]

Citizens with guns who can be assembled in an orderly and expedient manner to defend the country.

[arrogantsob]

Illinois’ constitution defines the militia as all able-bodied citizens.

What we have now is millions of armed citizens but not a “well-regulated milita.” They drilled, held meetings, often had arsenals, were led by officers and were at least semi-military forces.

[Bob434]

we do have some military style groups- but not many- but really- the constitution is not just about allowing arms for militia, it’s also about allowing them for all citizens and not infringing on that right- that inalienable right.The Supreme court made it clear that the right extends to all citizens, whether they belong to an organized group or not

But don’t forget also- We farmers and ordinary citizens are who drove the British from our shores- many folks not belonging to actual proper militia groups defended this country against a foreign enemy

[arrogantsob]

Those volunteers were called “Irregulars”. In reality, they and militias were almost useless to Washington’s plans since they would fire a shot and run. That tendency was later successfully incorporated in the tactics of the Continental Army.

At the time of writing it was not thought necessary to define “militia” it was understood as the armed force of the able-bodied within a community.