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Curious as to your thoughts on this:

Fast facts: The Montreal Protocol is a treaty about the ozone layer, but this latest amendment from Kigali represents an evolution to concerns about climate change. The 2015 Paris climate deal, which is a non-binding treaty that didn't require congressional input, is mostly about cutting other greenhouse gases from energy and land use. It's wholly separate from the Montreal Protocol.

Congress will have to ratify this. There is support from those in the industry "which include chemical makers like Honeywell and Chemours." Apparently some in the industry had lobbied for this because they already spent a lot of money trying to become compliant with it.

1 posted on 11/25/2017 4:40:51 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

A separate article with more info and rationale here:

https://www.axios.com/industry-to-trump-keep-obama-climate-policy-2485673850.html


2 posted on 11/25/2017 4:41:17 AM PST by Pinkbell
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Smokin ‘em out. Its a lot easier to expose them when they wear dayglo ID tags.


3 posted on 11/25/2017 4:51:59 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Pinkbell

It is not the Trump Administration that is pushing the anthropogenic climate change argument, it is the Deep State operatives that have not yet been removed, and might never be complete cleaned out. Bureaucracies have a life of their own, a reality that has been noted by others and elsewhere.

Bad science has been compounded with greed on the part of officials seeking new sources of taxation, not for the purposes of revenue (high tax rates equals decreased total revenue) but for the purposes of assigning winners and losers. Free enterprise is anathema to this kind of clannish thinking.


4 posted on 11/25/2017 4:55:27 AM PST by alloysteel (The rhetorical question, "How stupid can you be?" is just considered to be a challenge by some.)
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To: Pinkbell

The regulation of these chemicals has nothing to do with global warming AT ALL, and the subject should not even be mentioned in the article.


5 posted on 11/25/2017 5:14:07 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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Thanks to this type of thinking we have toilets that require multiple flushes per movement, dim lightbulbs full of mercury that require a hazmat team when one breaks, dishwashers and washing machines that don’t clean. Now we can have refrigerators and air conditioners that don’t cool.


6 posted on 11/25/2017 5:15:23 AM PST by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work on it.)
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Most new appliances I see are using R134A, same as cars.

R12 and R22 are already outlawed so maybe this is about the other 100+ countries? I’m sure China will jump right on it. Right after the smog lifts from their industrial zones and they quit eating dogs, shark fin soup and create a democracy of NK.


7 posted on 11/25/2017 5:17:19 AM PST by Pollard (TRUMP 2016)
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Didn’t we take care of HFCs a long time ago.


8 posted on 11/25/2017 5:21:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Freon patents ran out. Replacements force use of inferior chemicals so large corps have monopoly again. Everyone wins, government gets taxes, environmentalists think they accomplish goals, middle class gets screwed.


9 posted on 11/25/2017 5:23:23 AM PST by Raycpa
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Classic government meddling. This is costing supermarket chains millions upon millions every year.

My brother works in the commercial refrigeration field. he says its “musical refrigerants”. When they get done upgrading to one, the government makes them change again.

Some have done thousands of dollars worth of damage per store to existing systems.

Manufacturers are also in on the collusion to obtain market share.


13 posted on 11/25/2017 5:56:14 AM PST by headstamp 2 (My "White Privilege" is my work ethic.)
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They have still not learned that man-made “greenhouse gases” are a fiction.


15 posted on 11/25/2017 6:02:49 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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The policy is essentially that recommended some years ago by Danish mathematician Bjorn Lomborg. He rejected as excessively costly and implausible any crusade to dramatically reduce carbon dioxide emissions, but seeing evidence of potentially harmful global warming caused by humans, Lomborg urged that human emissions of more potent warming gases be reduced. As Lomborg and others have shown, this can be accomplished using the Montreal Protocol at bearable cost and with little disruption.


24 posted on 11/25/2017 7:24:11 AM PST by Rockingham
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Ignore Trump’s words and actions to date and this article has a chance of making sense....


29 posted on 11/25/2017 7:38:11 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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It was all a scam. CFC’s are much heavier than air so it does not float up into the ozone in the first place. Just the normal rent seeking by crony capitalists and RATS/Rinos who are happy to sell laws to the highest bidders.


32 posted on 11/25/2017 7:47:27 AM PST by Nateman (The louder the left screams , the better it is for America!)
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Quoted: "The United States believes the Kigali Amendment represents a pragmatic and balanced approach to phasing down the production and consumption of HFCs, and therefore we support the goals and approach of the Amendment," said Judith Garber, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of the State Department's Bureau of Oceans and International Environmental and Scientific Affairs.

Judith Garber: Obamite?

36 posted on 11/25/2017 8:16:39 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Women prefer men with money and muscles, DUH!)
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