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In all fairness to Apple this seems to be an unfair test. After all this is a Vietnamese group, and back in the day when you could say such things, everyone said that all the Oriental's looked alike.

Is the pun in the title intended...you make the call.

Found in several places, but FR is picky on the source.

1 posted on 11/13/2017 12:00:42 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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That’s racist!


2 posted on 11/13/2017 12:01:23 PM PST by Cowboy Bob
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LOL!!


3 posted on 11/13/2017 12:02:47 PM PST by TomServo
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5 posted on 11/13/2017 12:03:19 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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When they first said the Iphone X would have face recognition, I told my 12 year-old kid, thinking it was pretty cool. He said - “Why can’t you just hold it up to the guy’s face when he is asleep & open the phone?”


6 posted on 11/13/2017 12:03:26 PM PST by gubamyster
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Apple phone thinks Chinks all look alike.
It’s a racist phone. Ha!


12 posted on 11/13/2017 12:13:54 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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Sounds like bs to me, and I don't own any apple products.
13 posted on 11/13/2017 12:18:56 PM PST by eldoradude (It doesn't matter how many it takes, the lightbulb has already been stolen.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Ha! The article wins Headline of The Day!


14 posted on 11/13/2017 12:20:18 PM PST by subterfuge (RIP T.P.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I could have told them that, and saved them all that money. Same with fingerprint “technology.”


17 posted on 11/13/2017 12:44:37 PM PST by I want the USA back (Calling all Whites racist, is itself racist.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Wait...they found a chink?

Can you say that?


18 posted on 11/13/2017 12:50:35 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Is iPhone X Face ID foolproof? Vietnamese researchers claim to have found a chink.

Well, duh...they made the damn thing, so...

I mean the chinks, not the zips.

19 posted on 11/13/2017 1:40:07 PM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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“Vietnamese researchers claim to have found a chink.”


You mean as in “Yes, just to their north. In fact, several hundred million - ney, over a BILLION - chinks.”

Unbelievable that some drooling moron not only wrote that headline, but that some editor let it get through. WTF is wrong with these people?


20 posted on 11/13/2017 1:48:57 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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21 posted on 11/13/2017 2:09:24 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Headline: Muslims Fear Backlash from Tomorrow's Terror Attack - Mark Steyn)
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22 posted on 11/13/2017 2:10:17 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Headline: Muslims Fear Backlash from Tomorrow's Terror Attack - Mark Steyn)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; Swordmaker
This is similar to the previous FR thread:
Face ID beaten by mask, not an effective security measure (with Video)

26 posted on 11/13/2017 3:12:29 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Presses can be 'associated,' or presses can be independent. Demand independent presses.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Not true. iPhone X 3d facial recognition includes an iris scan.


28 posted on 11/13/2017 4:14:14 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done things in my life I'm not proud of. And the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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I watched the included video at least ten times and there things wrong with what Bkav is doing.

First of all, their VP of Cyber Security is swiping up immediately as soon as the enter passcode screen appears when the iPhone X comes on . . . but THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENS when an iPhone X comes on.

The passcode screen appears only when you want to enter the passcode if you are not going to open it without FaceID by swiping up and then waiting from the normal lock screen after it does not recognize your face. It does NOT appear just when you start the iPhone X. It will only appear when there is a problem with FaceID or you have not trained the iPhone X for FaceID.

Secondly, I noted is Bkav stated they were going to have a FaceID mask WITHOUT a passcode. SAY WHAT? That is not possible. Apple has programed the iPhone X to not allow a FaceID without a passcode as a safety fall back.

Thirdly, I watched the lock at the top of the screen. . . and it NEVER, EVER ANIMATED the UNLOCK motion of a padlock unlocking. He just quickly swiped up and the ten key unlock screen disappeared to reveal the home screen as if he had actually unlocked the screen. On my iPhone X, if I attempt to swipe up before that padlock unlocks, it is not unlocked. And my lock screen bounces back down. His motion is TOO QUICK to see what is actually happening.

Fourthly, the FAQ above about "covering half your face and it still works" is completely bogus". I just sat here and covered various halves of my face and the lock shook "NO" each time and refused to unlock with each half covered, no matter what half I had covered. So, they lied.

As Judge Judy says, you lie in one part of your testimony, all must be suspect.

Fifthly, the claim that a working 3D mask could be made from a photograph is entirely bogus. No mere artist working from a photo can ever construct a truly accurate 3D image of the real person the photo imaged. It is just not possible. There are just too many variables. Yet, Bkav tosses this off as something easy.

Sixth, the masks that Apple created to do their testing were far more sophisticated than Bkav's mask. These professional mask makers made masks that are indistinguishable from their models, down to the micrometer and they failed to unlock FaceID. Bkav making their mask's nose out of silicone by hand, especially ad hoc, means NOTHING dispositive because the infrared light is not going to treat it differently than it would a real nose, makeup, or any other surface. This is just bogus magician's patter, misdirection, by use of techy terms, just as is the claim of "using an artist to make the skin surface," to sound like it was really important to make a mask that was "so complex" to "fool the AI."

Seventhly, say that again: "Fool the AI"? The "AI" is a fast calculating Neural Engine that can do 600 billion calculations per second to adjust for every possible angle the face may be looking at the sensor and comparing to the reference face data.

Eighthly, one of the things FaceID is looking for is an actual look from the user's eyes toward the sensor. . . something a MASK, especially one mounted as this one is, with fake eyes, cannot do.

Ninthly, the amount of time it would take to make such a mask to target any individual iPhone X user is most longer than the maximum 48 hours FaceID would likely be available to unlock the device on a trial and error testing that such a mask obviously holds. . . during which time it could be disabled in minutes by FindMyiPhone if stolen or lost. Any of the targets they list were arrested, kidnapped, or compromised, etc., they'd be smart to have someone trusted left, say their attorneys, with instructions to brick their iOS devices they have with them. So much for this as a security issue.

Finally, this is a company that is NOT a security firm. They are a company that SELLS a competing ANDROID PHONE. . . one that uses a fingerprint sensor for security, these claims are really suspect. . . and they are attempting to push their phone's security as being much more secure than Apple FaceID.

From all of the above, I think that it appears that what they are doing here is bringing up a static screen shot of the passcode entry screen and merely swiping up to reveal the home screen. The timing is right, the speed is right, and the motive is there.

This is the typical approach of a marketing ploy of a company with something to sell smearing the more secure competitor claiming they've found a way around their competitor's security. . . by spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt.


33 posted on 11/14/2017 12:51:05 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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Another thread on the supposed hack of Apple's iPhone X FaceID. I am pretty sure it is a HOAX from an Android phone maker which is using it to push its BPhone line of fingerprint sensor protected phones. See my critique above and reasons above. — PING!


Apple FaceID Hacked, Or Hoax?
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34 posted on 11/14/2017 12:54:08 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you racist, bigot!)
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39 posted on 11/14/2017 1:52:12 PM PST by Ronald_Magnus
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Ha, ha! I saw what they did there!


44 posted on 11/14/2017 9:50:05 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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