[Enlightened1]

Today is Catalan Declaration Of Independence from Spain and the E.U.

[Enlightened1]

BTTT

[Mouton]

They must be getting advice from Jerry Brown.

[Enlightened1]

This is without a doubt a REJECTION of Globalism!

I love it!

[Genoa]

So, what happens next? Another Spanish Civil War? We could send our leftists over to help.

[jalisco555]

Wait, 90% of 43% means that fewer then 4 out of 10 Catalans have declared the desire to be independent of Spain. That’s a terrible basis on which to found a country. I don’t think they’ve thought this through.

[ScaniaBoy]

And the senate in Madrid has just voted for activation of paragraph 155 regarding Catalonia. This is not good! Both sides are run by maximalists. Very likely the situation will continue to escalate.

[Red Badger]

Spain is a NATO ally and a member of the EU.

If Madrid sends in troops, what happens then?..................

[butlerweave]

and the EU ,well good for them

[Little Pig]

If they manage to make this stick, I wonder if this will stir up the Basques again.

[tumblindice]

"I'm not dead." "I'm just restin'."

[ZOOKER]

This makes me vaguely uneasy.

If Catalonia breaks away, who will ultimately end up in power there? I have read that there is a sizable migrant population there.

Back in the Middle Ages there was an attempt to conquer Europe by invading Spain across the Straits of Gibraltar. This incursion was eventually thrown back but it took many years to accomplish.

I'm sure I'm not the only one seeing history repeating itself.

[mewzilla]

Saw this coming when the head honcho sent his wife and kids packing...

[Uncle Miltie]

This is a bigger deal than most people understand.

Will there be a Civil War in Spain?

Oh my.

What could possibly go wrong? (See: Spanish Civil War.)

[ek_hornbeck]

Today is Catalan Declaration Of Independence from Spain and the E.U.

Wishful thinking. The Catalans want independence from Spain, not from the EU. Most of the Catalan independence advocates want to remain in the EU (even though the EU opposes Catalan independence), albeit as Catalonia rather than as part of Spain. They resent rule by Madrid but not by Brussels, and reject "Spanishness" rather than Globalism. That's why I can't bring myself to be too enthusiastic about their independence movement, any more than I can bring myself to support the anti-London but pro-EU (and pro-immigration) Scottish independence movement.

[JonPreston]

.@RTenfrancais #endirect: clameur de joie de dizaines de milliers d’indépendantistes à #Barc… https://www.pscp.tv/RTenfrancais/1vAxRMPbWgYJl

[BigEdLB]

A new tune for the Olympics?

[BigEdLB]

Inés Arrimadas, Catalan Politican, Not Guilty!

[Wuli]

Many American Conservatives imply the Catalonia independence movement is in sink with American Conservatives disdain for the EU’s excesses and “globalism” in general.

I am thinking that may be a misreading of the politics of Spain and of the politics of Catalonia.

Yes, it is another “centrifugal” force, but I think more of it is unique to Spain and Catalonia than it is joined to the same causes American Conservatives support.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

[HollyB]

Madrid has not been taking in their quota of refugees and Catalan has been pushing the govt to take in many more. Evident by their pro refugee protest. —�—�— https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/18/protesters-in-barcelona-urge-spain-to-take-in-more-refugees. Tens of thousands of people marched through Barcelona on Saturday urging the Spanish government to immediately meet its pledge to take in thousands of refugees. Ada Colau, the mayor of Spain’s second city, had called on Barcelona residents to “fill the streets” and march under the slogan volem acollir (“We want to welcome them” in Catalan). —�—� Local police said approximately 160,000 people had heeded her call. Many of those flooding the major Via Laietana thoroughfare carried signs reading “Enough excuses, welcome them now”.” —�—�— https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN19B159 —�—�— Barcelona is “a progressive city which is open and warm towards people coming from outside”, Ignasi Calbó, coordinator of the “Refugee City” program at Barcelona City Hall, told the Thomson Reuters Foundation. The social inclusion program helps migrants settle in Barcelona, he explained. Its initiatives include Mescladís, a quirky bar and restaurant in the historic center run entirely by migrants.” —�—�—� https://www.google.com/amp/www.politico.eu/article/5-european-cities-migration-frontline-munich-gdansk-utrecht-barcelona-tampere/amp/ —�—�—�- Barcelona is 1 of 5 cities in Europe in the forefront pushing for foreign immigrants. The other four are Munich, Germany Gdańsk, Poland Utrecht, the Netherlands. Tampere, Finland —�—�