Posted on 10/18/2017 3:20:39 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
They were previously allowed to use mere driving licenses. But residents of some US states may soon require additional ID, such as passports, if they wish to embark on air travel - even if just domestically. That's the new procedure on the horizon for people from states that have not yet introduced the standards required by the 2005 Real ID Act, which demands stricter regulations for state-issued IDs. The states that haven't yet fallen into line each now have a grace period of three months to meet the revised criteria. This deadline expires on 22 January 2018.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Still no ID needed to vote.
Missouri is not in compliance because it refuses to share the documents that proves legal residence/citizenship with FedGov. MO does not knowingly issue DLs to illegal aliens and its documentation process meets RealID standards. It’s just the sharing part that is out of compliance. Kind of a state’s rights thing. Should FedGov be able to require a state to share info that it (the state) has gathered?
Now MO has come up with a way to wiggle out of the problem. If someone is willing to share their personal info with the Feds, they can get a DL that is RealID compliant. (I won’t because I already have a passport).
It looks like the biggest things states are choking on are retention of copies of source documents, end date for licences matching end dates of visas for nonpermanent visitors, and clearly identifying which IDs do not comply with Real ID by printing "Yo soy un illegal" on the picture. OK, I have exagerated the last point a little.
States that refuse to adequately verify identity or who give licenses to illegal aliens.
They should be excluded.
I believe that military posts no longer accept as ID drivers licenses from these same states.
These states have had long enough to clean up their state ID.
This reminds me I need to send mine in for renewal. DL is complaint, no problem flying.
Patently unconstitutional, for all that matters anymore.
We have the right of free passage between the states.
Mark my words, this “papers please” sh1t will expand into other forms of transportation and finally get to the automobile. The goal of the police state is border check points between the states.
So many years post 9/11 and we still can’t figure anything out without putting a torch to the REAL American civil liberties. I just love how everybody else can waltz right on in having free reign to our country.
That’s only part of the long game.
Here is a question that I can not seem to get an answer to...
What additional information is needed from you to make your drivers license a “compliant” driver’s license?
Do compliant stats put your SSN on the DL? Is Birth Certificate info on your DL? WHAT MAKES A DRIVERS LICENSE A COMPLIANT ONE!!!
I have to renew my DL next month here in NH and will not be giving them any more information then what I have already done in the past.
Since I don’t fly and never will in the future I could care less, but I will be damned if I have to turn over tons of personal information to renew my license.
For most people, it’s the card itself. Barcode and security to prevent counterfeiting. Immigrants have more hassle to get one. And the state must agree to share all info with other states.
https://www.dmv.org/articles/the-real-id-act-are-you-ready-for-a-national-id/
Thanks for the additional information! Good to know.
I had to provide original birth certificate and 2 pieces of id showing residence.
Not sure if this has been answered yet, haven’t seen it anyway, but how is this NOT a ‘Federal ID’ if a state is giving the info to a Federal database? Isn’t it then the same thing as ‘papers’ to identify and track us like the Nazis did the Germans?
I would even like to throw out in the mix, this along with the ‘permanent school and testing records from ‘common core’ testing, government medical health records, and the whole ‘jobs certifications’ mandates we have now screams out anything but FREEDOM and PRIVACY.
FYI. This wont happen.
People go through immigration and customs on all direct flights originating in Canada. Every person and every time. Doesnt matter whether you look like a Mexican type or a Norwegian. You must be mistaken.
Papers, please.
Last year I was leaving for the airport and realized I lost my license, grabbed my passport and left. All was well.
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