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What a load of crap.
1 posted on 10/17/2017 5:08:28 AM PDT by Puppage
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This is in response to Vegas right? How many people were killed by his handgu--

Ah forget it, it isn't about Vegas, this is about never letting a crisis go to waste.


2 posted on 10/17/2017 5:13:32 AM PDT by KC_Lion (If you want on First Lady Melania's, Ivanka Trump's or Sarah Palin's Ping Lists, just let me know.)
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Sure they do, the lives of criminals. How many law-abiding citizens looking for protection lost theirs though?


3 posted on 10/17/2017 5:13:36 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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No way they can back that theory up. Pure liberal BS.


4 posted on 10/17/2017 5:14:15 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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Make sure to have all other Bill of Rights permits and licenses in order.


5 posted on 10/17/2017 5:17:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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In my misspent youth, I worked for a scientist who primarily did studies for clients. His first question was, “what are you trying to prove?” It was then my job to arrange data that proved what the client wanted to prove. Sometimes the data did prove it. Sometimes the data said the opposite, but you couldn’t tell that from the write-up. The scientist got lots of grants. As a result, he had the biggest lab and office of his competitors at the university. He who brings in the most cash wins. “Science” takes a back seat to cash.


6 posted on 10/17/2017 5:18:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Look at all the lives the 3 day waiting period in Illinois has saved in Chicago.


7 posted on 10/17/2017 5:20:24 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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“We can say confidently that waiting period laws reduce gun homicides”

There are no contemporaneous control and experimental groups. Dodgy ‘science.’


8 posted on 10/17/2017 5:22:34 AM PDT by relictele
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But instead of spending scarce tax money on waiting periods for handgun acquisitions, why not spend it on women’s shelters or better youth crisis/domestic intervention initiatives? The question should be how many more lives could be saved by dealing with domestic violence regardless of the weapon used?


9 posted on 10/17/2017 5:25:26 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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with Chicago as the subject, last week’s murder rate of 9 would have been 12 with out the waiting period.


10 posted on 10/17/2017 5:25:31 AM PDT by bert (K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;WASP .... The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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Conflating self-defense with “gun deaths” again.


11 posted on 10/17/2017 5:25:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (You can't have totalitarian globalist government if the peasants are armed.)
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When “researchers” analyse an odd number, like 43 of 50, it is always suspect. Why did they leave out seven states?


12 posted on 10/17/2017 5:29:52 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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I recall John Lott looked at waiting periods and found that they *increased* homicides.

Not much, but some.


14 posted on 10/17/2017 5:32:07 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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However, delaying the purchase of guns by a couple of days could save nearly 1,700 lives a year, according to a study...

Wow, a "couple" of days. Real scientific measurement there. Notice the weasel word "could" too - no guarantee because no-one really expects this to work. They just want an excuse to advance their incrementalism a bit, chip away at our freedoms a little more. So in a year or two "well, that didn't work, how about we take this small step - for safety, for the children..."

Researchers at Harvard Business School analyzed waiting period laws for handguns in 43 states and the District of Columbia from 1970 to 2014. Their results showed that waiting periods were associated with a 17% decrease in gun homicides and a 7% to 11% decrease in gun suicides per year.

Nearly impossible to defend since they have no control group without waiting periods. We know firearm homicides and suicides vary by location, season, economic outlook - a whole host of factors. So it is a practical impossibility to identify one factor as a sole contributor or assign a weight to it.

“We can say confidently that waiting period laws reduce gun homicides,” said Deepak Malhotra, professor of negotiation and conflict resolution at Harvard Business School and a researcher on the study. “There seems to be a lot of evidence to suggest that suicides also are reduced, but further research might be necessary on that issue.”

Really? If you're so confident then why the weasel words? Why the call for more research? Guess you're not that confident. In fact I would guess that he is guessing, making {excrement} up, playing along with an agenda.

17 posted on 10/17/2017 5:37:41 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Doing my part to help make America great again!)
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I can walk in, buy an weapon and leave with it. Just like that! Show my conceal carry permit, they do the check and voila, I’m outta there, weapon in hand!


19 posted on 10/17/2017 5:42:42 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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Waiting laws save the lives of the bad guys but the good guys/women die.

Yeah; I’ll pass on this diaper load thank you.


22 posted on 10/17/2017 5:53:12 AM PDT by Boomer (The dem party has become the North Korea of American politics; unreasonable, dictatorial, fascist.)
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These studies are right up there with global warming. The left has proven it will manipulate science to support its agenda. In fact, they demand it.


23 posted on 10/17/2017 5:56:46 AM PDT by Spok
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“Study” means “propaganda”. The conclusions of studies are written before they are carried out.


26 posted on 10/17/2017 6:15:43 AM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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Fake news.


28 posted on 10/17/2017 6:32:53 AM PDT by jospehm20
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First, this is bunk.

Second, I would be interested to be informed as to how a handgun waiting period could possibly affect crime when the purchaser already has access to one or more of his or her own firearms. With over 100 million gun owners, I would have to believe that the vast majority of those purchasing a new handgun are existing owners. Michigan points to the utter absurdity of such restrictions.

Third, if you were going to have restrictions upon exercising one Constitutional right, then I would suggest that there needs to also be a waiting period for the right to buy a newspaper or magazine, or to Surf particular sites on the Internet, or to attend a house of worship, or to write a letter to your Congressman protesting his latest set of lies, etc. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.


29 posted on 10/17/2017 7:13:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Ministry of Propaganda


30 posted on 10/17/2017 7:38:42 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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