Posted on 10/15/2017 3:40:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
NOTICE: If you hate California and have nothing good to say, move on. You are NOT wanted on this thread. Get lost.
If you have a heart, please watch the video of the Berkeley Engine 6 firefighting team helping out in Santa Rosa. This is heart-wrenching. There are links to contribute to those who have lost everything.
A group of Berkeley firefighters was called out to help fight the Tubbs Fire early Monday morning. They thought it was a "large grass fire," but arrived in Santa Rosa to find hundreds of homes and businesses burned. This video was taken and produced by a Berkeley firefighter.
Berkeley Fire Department received the call for help early Monday morning. They sent an engine north to Santa Rosa to help with what they thought was a "large grass fire." When the strike team, made up of both Berkeley and San Francisco firefighters, arrived in Santa Rosa before sunrise, they were stunned to see the scope of the already massive Tubbs Fire.
A video shot and edited by a Berkeley firefighter (above) shows the crew's reaction when they realized just how large the destructive fire had grown overnight. As the engine headed toward the Santa Rosa Kmart store where they were told to assemble, the firefighters could see flames in the hills. "Wow, those are coming out of the structures," one firefighter says. "Oh my god." A few seconds later, someone says, "It's starting to smell like houses burning."
The Tubbs Fire destroyed more than 2,800 homes, 400,000 square feet of commercial space, and took the lives of at least 19 people.
The fire was 60 percent contained Sunday morning.
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No, the fail was when people who profess to know it all, don’t know when to keep their snarky, rude, and simply mean mouths shut.
Did you notice that during that 12 minute video, the firefighters didn’t once talk about what “the experts” on this forum have?
They were concerned about loss of life and loss of property.
No blame was cast on the people who lost homes, the terrible Leftist state, the lack of clearing brush, the lack of clearing forests, or mismanaged resources.
This was a housing sub-division, where 100s of homes went up in flames.
The clowns here just couldn’t take a pass.
Shameful.
Warning: we had a huge fire in our area a few years ago and most people left. They were replaced by the commercial marijuana farmers (CARTELS) who bought the newly cleared land for pennies on the dollar. It can happen to you. Totally sucks.
“Puzzeling to me is how no one even bothersed to pick up the phone and let these guys know what they were heading towards.
$50,000 of communications equipment on the truck and THIS is how it’s (not) used?”
Finding themselves surrounded, it was a blessing that fire fighters were not lost in that particular situation. I agree that the situation is puzzling with the communication and GIS technologies available today as well as the incident command experience one would expect to be in place given California’s history of fires. That said, Kudos to the firefighter boots-on-the-ground heroes!
Thanks,very sad to watch Freepers at times.Both my Son’s are Firefighters.They are there to save lives.No matter your politics both them and their Brothers and Sisters will help you.The video was an account of what they encountered. The OP asked for people to respect the thread.Some people just need to see their name in print.
I was once, at 18 years old, a rookie California forestry department employee, assigned to a forestry department fire house, north of Santa Rosa, in Cloverdale.
Went on all kinds of fires - forests, grass land, structures and even a whole lumber yard. None were as large as some of the recent fires in the region, though, as a fire fighter, each and every one is not taken lightly nor assumed to be “controllable” until control is actually achieved.
I have great respect for every fire fighter. Thank G-d we have some who will do the job.
Don’t want to watch the video though.
Thank you. Thanks for relating that your kids are firefighters. Very nice.
Folks who have first amendment rights, sometimes need to realize you don’t enter a thread about death and trash the deceased for smoking or drinking.
You simply allow folks some space, and express your sympathy. If you can’t work up the character to do that, then leave without bashing others.
I am 100 miles south of this mess, the air has been crap for a week.
You could smell wood smoke on Monday & Tuesday.
I got burned out in 89, it’s rough on a person.
I read the average age of the dead is 79 years.
Fire does not care who you voted for.
Thank you for posting this, and boy do I hear you!
As you know sadly, there were a few bitter nasties who tried to inject politics into this unprecedented natural disaster...on the Breaking Raging Fires Update Thread...Lots of Freepers on that thread posted last Monday have property family, and friends affected by the fires! In a situation like this, we are all Americans regardless of our politics.
Raging Wine Country Wildfires Burn Homes; Force Evacuations
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3593394/posts
People in Florida, Houston, Gatlinburg, Baton Rouge have suffered over the past year...
May I post a link to your thread from mine?
Too bad California can’t manage it’s resources.
Seriously?? What happened had nothing to do with managing its resources—obviously you have not been paying attention..
Just as the many Freepers who have family and friends impacted by the Sonoma fires don’t appreciate your comment, I am sure you would not appreciate similar sentiment directed to your state the next time some twisters come through and devastate communities on Oklahoma...
What happened had nothing to do with managing its resources—obviously you have not been paying attention..
They put housing developments in the middle of dry tinder.
Thanks for the link. That does explain it well: embers the size dinner plates and winds up to 80 mph, and many homes in wooded hills and other areas.
Those filthy people who ask for money, but never take basic steps to stop this from happening every year...that then say requiring preventative measures to get financial help is hateful?
The people who make that same response every year, and don’t push for common sense fire prevention between one years fires and the next round?
Why yes.
They did inject politics into the conversation.
And they are nasty.
Not only are they nasty, they are irresponsible.
Reminds me of pictures of Tokyo after the WW II incendiary raids.
I strongly suggest donating through Samaritan’s Purse,or a local church where 100% will go to the victims.
I LIVE in California and thes fires have been the worst I have known in all of my 76 years of living here.
Excellent reference for donations...There is also a Sonoma winery that is doing 50% matches with 100% going to the fire victims. I can provide link if you or anyone else is interested.
I know. Really tragic for CA.
what's burning is not brush, and houses too close together? There are wide well maintained firebreaks which have been used to contain the fires? Well all righty then. If this ended days ago (which is what happens with proper resource management ) then why is this thread still going on?
I was born and lived there for years. I can only hope that Kali votes to leave and a collateral vote is held to split the conservative counties from it. The idiot counties left would just be another Mexican State.
You can pick on the people in Houston who lost everything .
Or possibly those in Florida.
Puerto Rico as well.
Lots of people to choose from. I’m sure every state is full of dumb people who deserve any natural disaster they get.
Are you drunk? Or simply an idiot?
I believe it wasn’t so much the fire sweeping through the neighborhoods as burning embers falling from the sky setting all the neighborhoods alight at once. Then, when the fires are burning hot enough, the heat / radiation from one building can actually set the adjacent building afire. The heat through a closed window will cause drapes in the house to catch fire.
Also, these were mature neighborhoods with tall trees, often resinous pine trees and cedars that catch fire easily.
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