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Federal judge refuses to overturn Trump pardon of Arpaio
reuters.com ^ | 10/4/2017 | Katherine Davis-Young

Posted on 10/05/2017 6:18:40 AM PDT by rktman

A federal judge on Wednesday upheld President Donald Trump’s pardon earlier this year of 85-year-old former Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, rejecting legal challenges by outside groups.

U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton said that she had considered the petitions filed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona and other organizations, including one staffed by lawyers who worked for former Democratic President Barack Obama’s administration, but found no legal grounds to overturn the pardon.

Bolton did not rule on a request by Arpaio’s attorneys to take the further step of vacating his conviction.

Trump, a Republican who has promised to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, has praised Arpaio’s crackdown on illegal immigrants in Maricopa County, Arizona, that drew condemnation from civil rights groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; pardon; pardonemoi; trump; trumppardons
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WINNING! So, I ain't the pointyest or the sharpest knife in the drawer, but even I understand that there are certain privileges and powers granted the president that allow him to make some discretionary rulings/choices. What do they NOT understand? The waste of time and tax payer dollars in bringing suit over these things is irritating to me . Do the assclowns have to pay or are tax payers paying. Giving the suits standing is wrong to me. They should not be given standing and dismissed out of hand for not having any merit. (Guess I need to borrow a law degree from the slug from cbs. )
1 posted on 10/05/2017 6:18:40 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Reuters - is there anything they DO know that is actually true?

Judges cannot overturn a pardon.


2 posted on 10/05/2017 6:20:37 AM PDT by MortMan (NFL kneelers: A colonoscopy is not supposed to be a self-exam.)
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Federal judge refuses to overturn Trump pardon of Arpaio


Well, now that was mighty nice of the judge.
3 posted on 10/05/2017 6:21:37 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: MortMan

That’s why I’m PO’d. Why does this take up time in court? Same with the so called travel ban. It’s pretty clear that the president can keep anybody he wants out for whatever reason he wants. Grrrrrrrrr!


4 posted on 10/05/2017 6:22:47 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: MortMan

Yep. Stupid headline. The judge couldn’t overturn the pardon.


5 posted on 10/05/2017 6:23:45 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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The illegal aliens lose one. It’s about time. They wanted Arpaio’s butt bad.


6 posted on 10/05/2017 6:23:48 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The Second Amendment. NOW more than ever!)
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The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

ARTICLE II, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 1

Seems clear.......

7 posted on 10/05/2017 6:25:58 AM PDT by Lockbox
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“refuses”?

Puleeze. This guy would have been impeached if he hadn’t followed the Constitution in this matter.


8 posted on 10/05/2017 6:26:34 AM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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Judge has zero jurisdiction here.


9 posted on 10/05/2017 6:30:01 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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The POTUS pardon power is absolute. It is one of the sole Executive powers that requires no consultation with Congress or the judiciary................


10 posted on 10/05/2017 6:30:19 AM PDT by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Lockbox

We’re probably not nuanced enough to completely understand the under’lying’ meaning. ;-) I guess I coulda just said we’re “two stoopid” but I thought I’d be kind since it’s early. LOL!


11 posted on 10/05/2017 6:30:36 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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Federal judge refuses to overturn Trump pardon of Arpaio

I don't believe a federal judge has any standing to overturn a presidential pardon. I don't understand why the judge even agreed to review the petition.
12 posted on 10/05/2017 6:36:14 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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The ignorance on this story has been remarkable.

The judge had no power to overturn a pardon. Her ruling yesterday had nothing to do with "overturning a pardon."

President Trump issued his pardon after a motion had already been filed by Arpaio's legal team to have his original conviction overturned. Arpaio could have just dropped the whole thing at that point, but there was apparently some legal technicality in play that motivated him and his lawyers to insist that the judge consider the motion anyway. I believe it had something to do with the way Arpaio's legal record would be documented if he ever needed a security clearance in the future (or something like that).

For whatever reason, Arpaio and his lawyers decided that having his original conviction overturned on merit was preferable to having the charges disappear through the pardon.

The judge was never going to overturn Arpaio's pardon under any circumstances.

13 posted on 10/05/2017 6:38:13 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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It keeps the liberal base from torching her house...That’s the reason she went along ..


14 posted on 10/05/2017 6:38:30 AM PDT by Hambone 1934
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See my last post. The petition was filed by Arpaio, and it had already been filed before President Trump signed the pardon.
15 posted on 10/05/2017 6:39:05 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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There is nothing in the Constitution that could be construed to give the courts any say as to the pardoning power of the President. Just accepting the case in the first place is saying that a judge is competent to rule on the matter. He is not.


16 posted on 10/05/2017 6:39:41 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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There is nothing in the Constitution that could be construed to give the courts any say as to the pardoning power of the President. Just accepting the case in the first place is saying that a judge is competent to rule on the matter. He is not.


17 posted on 10/05/2017 6:39:42 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: rktman

Reuters just can’t help themselves. “Refuses” to overturn. How about “affirms the law”?


18 posted on 10/05/2017 6:40:45 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Well that’s just crazy. Doesn’t fit the story line their putting out. ;-)


19 posted on 10/05/2017 6:43:03 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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So everybody knows a presidential pardon cannot be overturned by the judiciary yet there are these really nasty leftists and leftist groups that simply sought to inflict more damage on Arpaio.

IMO, that’s what this was all about. It was about the nasty left trying to even the score and get back at Arpaio. They all knew the outcome but sought to drag this out as a form of anguished punishment.

Nasty.


20 posted on 10/05/2017 6:48:05 AM PDT by Obadiah
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