Posted on 10/04/2017 8:34:28 AM PDT by KeyLargo
"Deinstitutionalization and Mass Murders
Could deinstitutionalization have contributed to the rise of mass shootings? Since 1976, there has been an average of 20 mass murders a year. J. Reid Meloy, Ph.D., is a forensic psychologist who studied them. He found that mass murderers suffer mental illnesses that range from chronic psychotic disturbances and schizophrenia to paranoid disorders. They have the paranoid, narcissistic and schizoid traits of personality disorders.
These were not normal people who simply "snapped." Instead, they suffered for years from untreated or poorly treated mental illness. Most planned the shooting for years. Meloy argues that behavioral threat assessments are available and that these are our best hope of prevention. (Source: "Seven Myths of Mass Murder," Psychology Today, April 21, 2014.)"
yuo - its psycho tropic drugs.
I agree with the sentiment that letting crazy people run loose was a bad idea, though we don’t have all the facts in on this particular case yet.
“In 1955, the number peaked at 558,000 patients or 0.03 percent of the population...”
Wrong. It’s 0.3%.
Percentages ... how do they work?
I’ve been saying for YEARS that the Lunatics are running the Asylum...and I don’t just mean members of the Socialist Democrat Party!
So, instead of addressing the underlying problems with the mass shootings, we’ll just blame the guns.
Got it. *SPIT*
“What Is the Real Cause of Mass Shootings Today?”
One world globalist subversives. Just ask Soros.
Wasn’t this guy supposed to be a big poker player?
Would a professional poker player want to be “cool” at the table?
Would he be angling for anti-anxiety drugs?
um... there has always been mass murderers. The only difference now... a LOT more people
in 1890 there were only 62 million in the US, today 320, million. If there was a 1 in 60 million chance in 1890... and that percentage chase simply held true... there would be 5 times more mass murders today simply based on the difference in population size. And that doesn’t even factor in that a higher population also provides more targets in a smaller space.
Yeah but if we re-institutionalized how are we going to survive skynet?
If the population of SF is anywhere near 750,000, then that number should be a minimum for crazies in the U.S. rather than a maximum.
Most of these killers probably wouldn't have been institutionalized back in the old days.
On the other hand, many people who were just lonely and strange were.
What is causing mass shootings? Morals, lack of belief in God, the lack of people believing in the 10 commandments. When they were removed from public places I knew we were in trouble
While it may not apply to the LV auto sniper, I agree that closing state run institutions was inhumane and stupid. We are all suffering now. The crazies know you can never commit them against their will, they have rights even though they are bat sh!t crazy. So yes, almost all of the mass murderers would have been sate in institution 100 years ago. I think that is a true statement.
This guy was a licensed pilot, worked as a DoD contractor (clearance), and was a multi-millionaire. Given the background, medical history and level of functioning required, the only way he would have ever come under the scrutiny of “mental health professionals” is if he wanted to. The authors points are reasonable, but this guy is NOT a good case to make the point, he is the exception if anything.
Our culture has turned away from God and believes we can solve all of our problems without him.
I am with you.
With a background in law enforcement at several levels and being a combat veteran, my views on firearms differs from much of what I read and hear. I don’t see the use of firearms in these killings any different than I do an automobile with a DUI at the wheel.
I believe we are looking at two different causal factors. One has to do with perpetrators seeped in a religious ideology they believe calls for the killing of infidels. Those, of course are of radical Islam.
But the other group is different. These are clearly people with mental issues.
There appears to be an uncanny correlation between these white mass murderers and psychiatric drugs. Sitting in a doctor’s office two years ago, waiting for my annual physical,I read an article pointing out that in 31 of the most recent murders (or attempts), at schools and the like, the shooter was on one of the hard, usually prescription, drugs, it also noted a high percentage of suicides are also related. Interestingly, the mental health community has counseled law enforcement not to inform the public of this fact because others on the drugs may stop using them and become worse. - a very complicated problem.
It seems to me we need to concentrate our attention and prayers to combating the actual causes. These are people with mental health issues. How do we get them off the streets? Maybe, just maybe, it is the psychiatric community who are failing us and all society..
Started in ‘62.
you replied to wrong person
“This guy was a licensed pilot, worked as a DoD contractor (clearance), and was a m...”
Paddock allowed his FAA Medical Certificate to Expire in 2010, although he being someone as we know couldn’t care less about laws, could continue flying his airplanes assuming he would not be caught doing so without a Medical. He knew that using such medications would disqualify him for a Medical certificate.
Depression/Anxiety requiring medication
Pilots taking antidepressants/anti-
anxiety medication are disqualified, except
for
the 4 S.S.R.I. mediations which
require a Special Issuance (see attached SSRI Special Issuance Protocol). If the mediation and the diagnosis for
which it was prescribed are
no longer present then a pilot may be considered for certification. Remember it is not
only the medication, but what the medication was prescribed for that could be disqualifying.
Initial report to the F.A.A.
A.
Must be off medication for at l
east
6
0 days and have no evidence of recurrence of symptoms to be
considered for certification.
B.
Please provide a current status letter (dated within the last 90 days) from the treating physician to
include,
diagnosis,
medical t
reatment of depression or anxiety (including names and dosages of
meds), as well as how long treatment was provided, history of the illness and if any hospitalization
was required and prognosis
http://pilotdr.com/depression_all.pdf
The antidepressant SSRI drugs. They have warnings right on the label. That is by far the biggest cause.
Mix in a sicko culture or people hating Christianity, chopping off their penises, all the TV shows being super sick, macabre and violent, and a pussified male generation pretending they are soldiers in games, sports, fashion, etc, and I think you get pretty close.
In other words, take a male. Strip away all religious decency. Add in tons of porn, Living Dead, Sons of Anarchy, Game of Thrones, countless gruesome TV medical and detective shows, have Planned Parenthood get caught on video -laughing- about selling baby body parts, have a corrupt control freak government that increasingly adds pressure to every single aspect of life, add in 16 years of constant war with no end in sight, fetish out on military stuff like these loser Timmy tacticals do buying the ARs, growing the seal beard, etc... then when his empty life hits home, he gets on SSRI drugs that warn of suicidal and homicidal ideation right on the label.
The firearms are the most miniscule part of this.
And everyone acts shocked when this happens sometimes.
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