Posted on 09/15/2017 9:04:18 AM PDT by familyop
Hal Kempfer, a noted international security expert, is getting a roomful of California public health officials and emergency responders to think about the unthinkable – a nuclear bomb exploding at the port of Long Beach, about four miles away...News out of North Korea has created a mini-bonanza for local manufacturers of nuclear fallout shelters. But more important to the vast bulk of the population, Kempfer says, is having some rudimentary knowledge of what it means to “shelter in place"...Sandy Wedgeworth, the public health emergency management coordinator, said she and her staff felt energized, not depressed, by what they learned from Kempfer...
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
Back at cha, Illinoise!
And, that is the message that California FReepers really
need to hear. Hey, have a nice day, too!
It is serious and many good people in california there because of work...
Few tech jobs
Moved near China and Russia is safer....sure
Often these ships are in port for maintenence
New Jersey
Agreed. Some people are so ignorant!
Yeah, I was being silly about the Navy. But if policies and positions in the nations continue as they are, it appears that we’ll need to fight a world war. Many people—even many who make policies—are unaware of the extents of China’s desire to expand, settle old scores and continue toward empire. Russia, too. Communist or fascist, it’s in their history, their media, their minds and their military schools.
I suggest two Kalifornia targets, Sacramento and San Francisco. Give ‘em fits.
Republican in California should introduce a bill in their legislature banning any NK weapons being delivered, shot at or detonated in California without a permit. Problem solved. Republicans need to grow a pair.
Yeah, I was being silly about the Navy. But if policies and positions in the nations continue as they are, it appears that we’ll need to fight a world war. Many people—even many who make policies—are unaware of the extents of China’s desire to expand, settle old scores and continue toward empire. Russia, too. Communist or fascist, it’s in their history, their media, their minds and their military schools.
Eh, guess I am very sensitive or sensitized to the idea that California is expendable...My uncle was Navy—passed this year...He and his entire family live there or in other strike targest :(. I have a number of family and friends in California...my son for one...
They don’t like the politics in California, but they either have family or careers that necessitate being there...
so the idea of just killing off California really upsets me.
Beyond my personal issues, there is the military presence there, the tech presence there (use Google, YouTube, PayPal, Ebay, have a smart phone or computer, etc.?) plus the fact that FREE REPUBLIC IS LOCATED THERE means a big impact if California sustains an attack.
Every time one of these North Korea nukes California threads goes up there are a number of people who post rather thoughtless replies :(
And, this is what passes for humor as parts of our
Eastern Seaboard are freshly pummulted by disaster
and the rest of it has been or could be subjected
to same? Hmmm....
For crying out loud, the fools are posting this thoughtless crap on a website based in Fresno!!!
Time for everyone to reread *One Second After* again.
I just got done reading the book, *The Final Day* and in it he puts forth that many in the government will know something is coming and put their families in safe places.
Then they will let the rest of the world go to hell while they are safe and fed.
So tell me, would you like it if everyone here was gleeful that Texas got hit with Harvey? or the potential to get hit with a Nuke?
Extreme makeover right there.
Don't plan on "bugging out" if you don't have a place to go to
If you have a location that you can go to, consider 'cache' of items, in secure locations , along the way of your anticipated route.
By 'secure', often that means isolated locations, with your 'cache' secreted (buried ?), and which you can locate by triangulating with immovable landmarks, known only to you.
If you have no location to go to, you would be better served by "remaining in place", in an environment that is already known to you and is familiar.
Thank you.
Strange I haven’t noticed any posters from Florida
in on this particular Calibashing session although
I did notice and commend you for addressing a Texas
poster. The thing about that is like everywhere else
Cali is sending humongous amounts of aid to Texas
while this character is busy dissing all of us.
I don’t really mind if they bash California politics as
long as I know that THEY know that not all of
us are liberals. California has earned most of the
criticism but when they post as if we are all of one
mind some of us tend to get a little irked. Hell,
looking at the numbers with 5-6 million GOP voters
in California we have more conservatives than some
states have TOTAL voters but they feel the need to
lump all us into the libtard scumbucket. Our enemies
DON’T have an address...they have a mindset!
Believe me, I have a developed sense of humor but
some of this goes beyond.
Thanks again for your concern and for tolerating
this rant.
Not a fan of dark humor, I see.
Thanks for the ping. Glad to have you back posting the thread. I have been catching up on canning my meats and restocking my ordinary pantry.
Saw a guy on You tube - 100 bucks a year meal plan. That plan consisted of beans and rice and some salt/spices.
So I sat down and figured out using the cheapest Walmart prices on line, what it would cost to have Oatmeal for breakfast, Rice for lunch, and beans for supper. Came to about 129 bucks a year per person.
Buy some vitamins and using the normal pantry, We’d have a different entrée/recipe every day of the month for a whole year-that plan only has beans 2-4 times a month. However, that’s just for me, hubby, daughter and granddaughter that is here daily.
I have been thinking about our extended family, and I can’t really logistically rotate stock or afford to get all the stuff we need for 8 additional people. But I can probably buy enough beans, rice, oatmeal for them and that can be stored for long term and just used to expand the meal plan.
For example, the Chili recipe can simply have added beans and/or rice to fit the size of the group. So my plan for the extended family is to just buy 25-50 bucks of beans, rice, oatmeal each month, till I get enough. That’s something we could do I think.
I am in the process of taking inventory and reorganizing the storage spaces to get rid of junk like broken chairs and old clothes, and putting in shelves to hold containers of long term food.
We have 3 walls of good protection from nuclear. Since Hubby is not agreeable to putting in the other wall and ceiling, I’m going to make the shelves extra heavy duty and use some pavers to expand the patio.
I’m also using concreate blocks to surround my beds, and make them deeper. Those blocks and pavers can then be used to do a quick makeshift shelter in combination with the heavy duty shelves.
I have fans and a solar generator to operate them to help establish the correct air circulation. Best I can do on my own I think. Unless the Russians or ChiComs nuke us, the chance of extreme radiation here is rather small.
I think that they would rather protect the ability of the Midwest to produce food, and think that that larger population centers such as NY and LA along with the major military stuff would be the more likely targets.
I have had the iodine tablets etc for quite a while as a just in case measure.
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