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Utah hospital to cops: Stay away from our nurses
Washington Post ^ | Sept 05, 2017 | Fred Barbash and Derek Hawkins

Posted on 09/05/2017 9:36:38 PM PDT by Ken H

The University of Utah Hospital, where a nurse was manhandled and arrested by police as she protected the legal rights of a patient, has imposed new restrictions on law enforcement, including barring officers from patient-care areas and from direct contact with nurses.

Margaret Pearce, chief nursing officer for the University of Utah hospital system, said she was “appalled” by the obfficer’s actions and has already implemented changes in hospital protocol to avoid any repetition.

She said police will no longer be permitted in patient-care areas, such as the burn unit where Wubbels was the charge nurse on the day of the incident and from emergency rooms.

In addition, officers will have to deal with “house supervisors” instead of nurses when they have a request.

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To: Ken H

Thanks for pointing out that post. I agree with you and that post. I missed that one. Good read


81 posted on 09/06/2017 12:52:57 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom
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To: Az Joe
“Poor widdle babyyyyyy....is the big, bad man arresting you?” She was acting like he was dragging her to the gas chamber...lol...Pathetic.

Tell me, Joe.

How do you expect that you'll react, if the situation arises in which you are protecting someone who you are in charge of protecting? Protecting them against a dozen or so really big men; men who are just standing there, watching you attempt to stop what you know in your heart is an action that is against the law and in violation of the most basic of protections offered by the Constitution?

How will you react when the substandard flunky suddenly loses his self-control in the face of a perceived attack on his authority, and begins to physically assault you to wrestle you into the hand-cuffs, instead of maintaining his composure and instructing you, professionally, to turn around to be handcuffed, explaining that you are being arrested?

How will you react, Joe?

82 posted on 09/06/2017 1:04:50 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Washi

He’d huff and puff and type out a reply behind his keyboard...

Then he’d probably scream and run for mommy.


83 posted on 09/06/2017 1:08:12 AM PDT by TruBluKentuckian
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To: Admin Moderator; Az Joe

Wow, my comment (62) was deleted.

Sorry moderator. I must have sworn, or called names, or hurt someone’s feelings.

I’ll try not to do that in the future, because I thought I made some really good points. Now those points won’t be read.


84 posted on 09/06/2017 1:38:11 AM PDT by Washi
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To: Tammy8

Thank you! I look at many of these comments and know immediately that these Freepers don’t have a real clue of what transpired before, during, and after that SLC police need to answer for. Let’s start with the fact that officers were involved in a police chase and did not break of the chase when it became an obvious risk to the public. The perp crossed the center line and hit a semi-truck/trailer head on. The truck exploded in an inferno of fire. The trucker was severely burned, unconscious, and in critical condition when admitted to the hospital burn unit. This jackass officer that demanded a blood draw from the innocent victim had absolutely no valid reason or legal standing to demand it. Nurse Wubbels told him so in the calmest and non-confrontational manner. She did nothing that would provoke a reasonable person. This officer (for unknown reasons) couldn’t accept “no” for an answer. He physically attacked the nurse, shouting “WE’RE DONE - WE’RE DONE” and it was only after he had slammed her against the wall that he said, “you’re under arrest” and put her in cuffs. He never read her rights. The shift supervisor (a Lieutenant) defended this wrongful arrest while she sat in the patrol car in handcuffs and was lectured about obstruction. Lastly, nearly a month went by with no apology and no discipline for the officer(s) involved in the incident. The Chief and the Mayor claim they knew nothing about it until the video was released to social media and it went viral. Cops trying to cover the asses of other cops. Pure and simple. What moron thinks it’s okay to take blood or any “samples” without consent from a VICTIM of a crime. Cops victimized him once by causing that wreck. Then they try to victimize him again through unreasonable search and seizure. Absolutely indefensible behavior on the part of the SLC police department and I’m sick of reading know-nothing posters saying it was a good arrest. BS. It was an attempted cover-up. The Mayor should fire the Chief and get someone in there to clean house. It’s dirty. BTW - this victim is still fighting for his life. If he survives, he will probably be permanently maimed and disabled.


85 posted on 09/06/2017 1:50:38 AM PDT by torqemada (Libs/Progressives - If you dish it, you better be prepared to take it.)
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To: Spktyr

Thank you, too. So good to see the truth of the matter so clearly stated. Hopefully the Freepers jumping to defend the SLC police will understand now that they are deserving of that defense.


86 posted on 09/06/2017 1:57:52 AM PDT by torqemada (Libs/Progressives - If you dish it, you better be prepared to take it.)
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To: torqemada

**correction** ...they ARE NOT deserving of that defense.


87 posted on 09/06/2017 2:00:46 AM PDT by torqemada (Libs/Progressives - If you dish it, you better be prepared to take it.)
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To: Ken H

I read some of the comments on the WaPo website. Way over the top cop haters, most of whom immediately link all abuses by any police to Donald Trump, the great dictator. Screw the WaPo, and the cop haters. There are always going to be bad people in any profession. At least something is being done about this one.


88 posted on 09/06/2017 2:15:15 AM PDT by jim35 (The Tree of Liberty is coming in to bloom again.)
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To: jim35

I’ll bet it’s nothing compared to the s**t sandwiches the hospital staff is going to make them eat every time an officer walks into their hospital.


89 posted on 09/06/2017 3:14:52 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: Spktyr

But how did the nurse know the guy wasn’t just some drunk found behind the wheel? Seems to me there is still something missing. Thanks for the synopsis.


90 posted on 09/06/2017 3:18:49 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: torqemada

So, we have another “Twin Peaks” event here on a smaller scale?


91 posted on 09/06/2017 3:20:57 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Az Joe

You know it would cut the whole licking thing out if you got a spoon and a can of Kiwi, don’t you?


92 posted on 09/06/2017 3:25:59 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Noamie
I was speechless. I was literally just standing there quietly.

Fundamental Truth of All Human Societies:
Police yourselves ... or you will be policed. And you won't like it.

You're being policed. How's it feel?

93 posted on 09/06/2017 3:26:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: wastoute

The law makes **no** exceptions. In the absence of exigent circumstances, no blood draw without patient permission or a warrant. That’s why sobriety checkpoints these days often have a magistrate sitting in an RV or office trailer nearby - they issue the warrant if the driver refuses permission.

The cops could not demonstrate exigent circumstances to the nurse, the patient was unconscious and the cops didn’t have (and likely could not get) a warrant. No warrant, no consent, no blood draw. That is, in black and white, the law.


94 posted on 09/06/2017 3:38:02 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: wastoute

It doesn’t matter if it was some drunk behind the wheel. No warrant, no law enforcement blood draw. Now, the hospital could do it’s own blood draw if medically necessary, but law enforcement can’t.


95 posted on 09/06/2017 3:40:54 AM PDT by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: Az Joe

I’d be hysterical at being arrested too, especially for DOING my job.

As much as I support LEO’s, that one was an asshat.

Or a typical alpha male bully?


96 posted on 09/06/2017 3:52:54 AM PDT by mom4melody (,)
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To: Tammy8

Mount Sinai Hospital emergency room and it ended with a man getting shot outside the ER.

The emergency room had to close its doors to new patients while police dealt with the early morning shooting. According to Chicago Police, the 31-year-old victim got into a fight just after 3:30 a.m. The victim was then dragged outside, where he was shot in the groin. He’s currently in serious condition.


Fight at Rhode Island Hospital ER prompts lockdown after nightclub shooting


Police describe the man believed to have fired the shots as a 22-year-old black male, medium skin complexion, with braids, and armed with a handgun.

After loved ones of the victims arrived at the St. John emergency room, a fight broke out, requiring a police response


97 posted on 09/06/2017 3:55:27 AM PDT by anton
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To: mom4melody
Or a typical alpha male bully?

This isn't "alpha male" behavior. It's "ass hole" behavior.

There's a huge difference. Dude is probably compensating for shortcomings elsewhere in his life. He needs to be stripped of his uniform. He needs to be prosecuted for assault with a deadly weapon, battery, and kidnapping. He needs to be sued, personally, for punitive damages. His supervisor needs to be prosecuted for conspiracy.

Most of all, the whole damn department needs to be cleaned up.

And cops generally need to remember that they're public servants, not lords and masters.

98 posted on 09/06/2017 3:59:33 AM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: Noamie

That is an outrageous assertion.

Nurses do not venture out into the public domain in order to inflict some agenda upon the population at large. Cops, generally do not either, but Nurses are typically stationary and not working in the shadows.

Your comment is indicative of a mentality that is quite in order with that POS Cop who demonstrated that he clearly belongs in a cell.

I am just unnerved by your incredible ignorance which you openly expressed.

Do you think that this business is somehow funny?


99 posted on 09/06/2017 4:03:59 AM PDT by Radix (Natural Born Citizens have Citizen parents)
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To: Noamie; Ken H
Nurses kill more ppl than cops.

That is a huge mis-comparison and you know it. People come to nurses hanging on to life by a thread; sometimes people cannot be saved, sometimes in the emergency atmosphere a nurse or a doctor or an anesthesia professional makes a mistake.

Cops, on the other hand, shoot people -- often with very good justification.

The purposes are so different that conflation is dishonest. Your role is to subdue and arrest people. Their role is to save lives.

Further, this incident had none of those elements, so your comment is not only dishonest conflation, it is non-sequitur.

100 posted on 09/06/2017 4:12:05 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The "news" networks and papers are bitter, dangerous enemies of the American people.)
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