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Louisiana judge rules Sofia Vergara’s frozen embryos are ‘citizens of California’
New York Times ^
| 8/30/2017
| WITW Staff
Posted on 08/31/2017 12:39:15 PM PDT by simpson96
Modern Family star Sofia Vergara has been locked in a bitter custody dispute with Nick Loeb over frozen embryos she and her former fiancé had made when they were together for years, but she recently picked up a major legal victory in the public battle. Since the two split up, Loeb has aggressively tried to acquire custody of the frozen embryos. In his latest legal bid to obtain legal custody, Loeb filed an unusual right-to-live lawsuit against Vergara in Louisiana, the only state where frozen embryos have legal rights. He named the two embryos Emma and Isabella in court documents, and even went so far as to set up trust funds for them.
Loeb brought the lawsuit back in December and last week a judge threw out the case on the basis that it was filed outside the proper jurisdiction, given that the embryos were created in California. In court documents obtained by TMZ, the judge even kept up the theme Loeb started in the lawsuit, ruling that Emma and Isabella are citizens of California.
Nice one, your honor.
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To: null and void
Good point. That’s a thing.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:02:58 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Defensive weapons are not 'provocative' unless you're an aggressor." ~Gen. Mattis)
To: simpson96
Blackmun himself said that if embryos were persons he would have to declare abortion as illegal.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:04:02 PM PDT
by
reg45
(Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
To: simpson96
Only Persons can be citizens
Embryos are Citizens
Therefore...Embryos are Persons.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:06:58 PM PDT
by
pgkdan
(The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
To: stormhill
Correct. Constitutionally, a citizen, an embreyo then requires due process before depriving it of life. That is really going to make things interesting.
To: simpson96
An "embryo" ... truly an embryo ... new life? Not an "egg"? Wouldn't freezing an embryo risk killing the embryo? Isn't that "murder" or at least "manslaughter". If the frozen embryo dies, who goes to jail, parent or doctor?
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:16:44 PM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: stormhill
"Now theyre playing with fire. If embryos can be citizens they are de-facto persons and this is the express lane to the dismantling of Roe."Indeed!
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:25:46 PM PDT
by
rxsid
(HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
To: House Atreides
Did Planned Parenthood weight-in on this case?
Does this ruling extend “rights to life” to other unborn embryos?
Calling the Eagle Forum....
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:27:20 PM PDT
by
ptsal
( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
They were fertilized. They are embryos, which are ova that have been fertilized by sperm.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:28:09 PM PDT
by
utahagen
(but but)
To: rightwingintelligentsia
To: rxsid
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:33:10 PM PDT
by
Yulee
(Village of Albion)
To: rxsid
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:33:17 PM PDT
by
Yulee
(Village of Albion)
To: so_real
Many frozen embryos are thawed, gestated, and born. However, there is a risk of death and a heightened risk of many health problems.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:38:03 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Defensive weapons are not 'provocative' unless you're an aggressor." ~Gen. Mattis)
To: simpson96
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:38:37 PM PDT
by
subterfuge
(Save the monuments!!)
To: simpson96
This story makes me sick and sad.
As a practicing Catholic I am not a fan of in vitro fertilization which requires the creation and freezing of a lot of embryos. You can end up with these kinds of bad situations.
Even worse (for me): when a woman is “impregnated” with the embryos, the doctor puts in up to a half dozen embryos—to make sure one of them implants. Later in the pregnancy if there is (for example) five embryos that implant, the doctor kills off 3 or four of the five, selective abortion.
.......or you get something like this happening, a gaggle of frozen embryos in dishes or tubes that are fought over in court, then often directly disposed of if someone doesn’t want all of them.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:40:26 PM PDT
by
RooRoobird20
("Democrats haven't been this angry since Republicans freed the slaves.")
To: rightwingintelligentsia
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:43:00 PM PDT
by
moovova
To: Tax-chick
I've heard of such things with sperm and egg. But I guess I never had cause or opportunity to learn of embryos being "stored" so. This saddens me greatly. A life is created and then denied its opportunity to grow and explore. That's positively evil.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:55:01 PM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: simpson96
I volunteer to defrost all of her embryos.
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posted on
08/31/2017 1:56:30 PM PDT
by
morphing libertarian
(Imprison, The Clintons, Holder, Obama, and Huma for starters)
To: morphing libertarian
I volunteer to defrost all of her embryos.
Never mind that.
How do you get access to the fresh ones?
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posted on
08/31/2017 2:07:28 PM PDT
by
Bratch
("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
To: so_real
It’s been going on a long time. A quick search shows the first birth with a frozen embryo was in 1984. The first custody lawsuit was in 1989.
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posted on
08/31/2017 2:08:45 PM PDT
by
Tax-chick
("Defensive weapons are not 'provocative' unless you're an aggressor." ~Gen. Mattis)
To: Bratch
We should team up and get a grant to research this important social problem in the name of social justice.
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posted on
08/31/2017 2:10:04 PM PDT
by
morphing libertarian
(Imprison, The Clintons, Holder, Obama, and Huma for starters)
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