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Strong On Gun Rights, Trump Weakens Gun Sales In Florida, State Figure Show
Tampa Bay Times ^ | Aug 28, 2017 | Howard Altman

Posted on 08/29/2017 9:08:23 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler

Support for gun rights is a bedrock issue for President Donald Trump.

The gun industry, though, appears to be taking a hit with his election.

Since January, two key indicators of firearms ownership in Florida have declined compared to the same seven-month period in 2016, when they reached record highs.

Through July, people filed about 559,000 requests for concealed weapons permits, down about 4 percent from the same period a year ago. Also during that period, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement ran about 139,000 background checks at the request of licensed gun dealers, down about 10 percent from 2016.

Two local gun dealers and a manufacturer confirm the trend. No one worries about Trump taking away their guns, according to these men, as they did with former President Barack Obama.

"It's been said many times that Obama was the gun industry's best salesman," said Fred Flesche, owner of Shooting Sports of Tampa, a gun range and dealership on Dale Mabry Highway. "Every time he talked about gun control, gun sales went up."

Obama spoke frequently about increasing government control over gun sales, especially after mass shootings like the December 2012 killing of 20 children and six teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

In Florida, concealed weapons permit applications jumped more than 25 percent and background checks by more than 8 percent in the year following the Sandy Hook shooting. The numbers of both concealed weapons permit applications and background checks peaked in Florida during the last year of the Obama administration, according to state figures.

"I think it's because after the election, people were not as concerned with antigun legislation," said Bruce Kitzis, general manager of Shooters World on Fletcher Avenue in Tampa. "There was a lot of fear leading up to the election that if a Democrat was in office we would see a lot of gun restrictions."

Mark Serbu, owner of Tampa's Serbu Firearms, says sales of his products have been down since the election.

"Everyone is down right now because a Democrat didn't win and there wasn't the panic buying like under the last administration," Serbu said. "Gun owners now have an advocate in the White House they didn't have over the past eight years."

Flesche said he has experienced drops in sales across the board and in enrollment for concealed weapons permit classes. Kitzis said sales of semiautomatic long guns, like the AR-15-type Bushmaster used in the Newtown massacre, have dropped.

"Our concealed weapons classes are running very close to last year's numbers," Kitzis said. "We have not seen a significant drop in class numbers. As far as sales, there has been a slight decrease in tactical gun sales but our handgun sales have been strong."

Kitzis added that his shop has seen an increase in use of its shooting range.

There is validity to the theory that Trump's victory has helped diminish gun sales, said Marion Hammer, spokeswoman for the NRA's Florida chapter.

"People tend to purchase things that they are afraid someone is going to take away or keep them from purchasing," Hammer said. "Now that we have a president who supports all of the Constitution, including the Second Amendment, the gun owners are not as afraid of losing their rights as they were under Obama or any other very liberal antigun Democrat."

Despite the Florida numbers, Hammer said, NRA membership in the state is on the rise. She declined to release any figures, though.

Trump in the White House helps explain the decline in gun purchases, said Patty Brigham, co-chairwoman of the Florida Coalition to Prevent Gun Violence.

"We of course know he is aligned with the National Rifle Association," Brigham said. "That possibly explains some of it."

But there is another theory on why applications for concealed weapons permit are down, from Dave Winters, who runs the wounded veterans support group called Black Dagger Military Hunt Club.

The market, said Winters, is saturated: "All my friends already have concealed weapons permits."


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Gun and ammo prices have dropped faster than Hillary Clinton on Veterans Day!
1 posted on 08/29/2017 9:08:23 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler
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And are the Liberal snowflakes complaining about this, or trying to use it as a smear against him somehow? Under Obama, gun rights were obviously under assault. Now they aren't (as much), so the need to rush to grab what we can, when we can, has diminished. It's not difficult to figure out.

Never thought I would see the day when Liberals whined about fewer guns being sold.

2 posted on 08/29/2017 9:11:11 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

The headline falsely frames this as Trump is ruining the gun industry....


3 posted on 08/29/2017 9:11:41 AM PDT by ObozoMustGo2012 ("Be quiet... you are #fakenews!")
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Trump supports police protecting all citizens... that’s a factor.


4 posted on 08/29/2017 9:12:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (In a crisis, the lying press is searching for a victim to rape. - - Freeper editor-surveyor)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

I know... you see all kinds of ammo now, even 22! its still a bit high, but at least its there...


5 posted on 08/29/2017 9:15:49 AM PDT by wyowolf (Be ware when the preachers take over the Republican party...)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

“down about 4 percent from the same period a year ago”

After the last 8 years maybe it’s because more people already have them than need them. Ya don’t have to reup every year there Howie, mines good for 7 years.

OR maybe people feel just a little safer now that obama is gone.......never thought of that did ya Howie. What a maroon.


6 posted on 08/29/2017 9:15:57 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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I went to the Indy 1500 gun show this past saturday.
Prices were very competitive, but ammo reloading components were insane. Cans of powder for $22 - $25 (about $20 per lb for 8lb jugs). Bullets and printers were $2 to $5 lower. Good news for those of us that shoot our guns.


7 posted on 08/29/2017 9:16:13 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Each and every day so very many journalists prove that their profession has intellectual and moral standards that are, well, right down there along that of politicians.


8 posted on 08/29/2017 9:17:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: V_TWIN

“Everyone is down right now because a Democrat didn’t win and there wasn’t the panic buying like under the last administration,” Serbu said. “Gun owners now have an advocate in the White House they didn’t have over the past eight years.”

That should have been the end of the article right there.


9 posted on 08/29/2017 9:18:12 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

From the article:

“The gun industry, though, appears to be taking a hit with his election”.

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Nonsense. Most people already have ammo and guns and are simply being prudent and selective in new purchases.


10 posted on 08/29/2017 9:18:38 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
The headline falsely frames this as Trump is ruining the gun industry....

They do a pretty good job of pointing out why gun sales skyrocketed under Obama though.

Usually straightforward from such an ultra-left wing newspaper.


11 posted on 08/29/2017 9:19:14 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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It’s down because people don’t feel their rights OR their lives are in so much jeopardy as with commies like Uhbama.


12 posted on 08/29/2017 9:25:37 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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....Gun and ammo prices have dropped faster than Hillary Clinton on Veterans Day!...

Now is the time to add to what you have before the next Democrat all out assault on the Second Amendment. And that isn’t just speculation.


13 posted on 08/29/2017 9:28:48 AM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Gun sales peaked before the election because of the probability of Hillary being our dictator.


14 posted on 08/29/2017 9:29:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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> The headline falsely frames this as Trump is ruining the gun industry....

If people feel safer with Donald Trump as President then their perceived need for the means to protect themselves is less, so gun sales go down. People only worry about buying a firearm when they think they might not be able to in the future.


15 posted on 08/29/2017 9:34:24 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: Sasparilla

Yeah, but it’s human nature not to do it. So, folks will be three deep
at the gun counter when it does happen.


16 posted on 08/29/2017 9:36:10 AM PDT by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

Salesman of the Year is out of office.


17 posted on 08/29/2017 9:39:06 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Sasparilla
Now is the time to add to what you have before the next Democrat all out assault on the Second Amendment. And that isn’t just speculation.

And get more target practice knowing replacement ammo is now available and at lower prices.

That's what I would do if I had a gun!

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18 posted on 08/29/2017 9:43:56 AM PDT by Vlad The Inhaler (We were Trumpin' before Trumpin' was cool.....)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

I just bought a .308 Winchester and a nice little .22 Semi Auto Pistol yesterday. Couldn’t resist the price on them.

Of course I couldn’t actually take them home. I have to wait ten days to exercise my Second Amendment Rights since I live in Commmiefornia.

I hadn’t bought any Firearms for a number of years here, and I discovered that both Firearms will be Registered with the State.

I also had to take a 30 Question Written Test to obtain a “Firearms Certificate” ($25 and good for five years) and had to do a Safe Firearms Handling Test with a qualified Firearms Instructor to show I wouldn’t shoot myself or others by accident, or something.

The DROS Fee was $30. Looks like the Government makes as much as the Retailer does on the Sale.

I love the smell of Freedom in the morning.


19 posted on 08/29/2017 9:47:36 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The way Liberals carry on, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
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To: Vlad The Inhaler

The same people who write about a ten percent budget increase one year followed by a nine percent budget increase the next year being a “budget cut” must have written this article.


20 posted on 08/29/2017 9:49:35 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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