Posted on 07/17/2017 11:45:01 PM PDT by Architect of Avalon
In Arkansas, women are now required to get permission from men before going through with abortion services.
The law is a provision of recently passed bill H.B. 1566 which states that in the matter of a person’s death, family members must all agree on what to do with the deceased person’s body.
So, how do women and their bodies play into this at all?
Arkansas legislators decided to include aborted fetuses into the Act, meaning both the mother and the father of the fetus must agree on what to do with the fetal remains.
This essentially requires a woman to tell the individual who impregnated her that she's planning an abortion, and then receive permission from them to do so.
Both parties then must agree on what to do with the remains.
Unfortunately, legislators didn't take into consideration how this could potentially effect women impregnated after rape or abuse.
Additionally, for women under the age of 18, the decision about what to do with the fetal remains will be deferred to her parents or guardians.
The provision is planned to go into effect at the end of this month, however, the ACLU is fighting back.
Members of the ACLU said in a statement:
“Every day, women in Arkansas and across the United States struggle to get the care they need as lawmakers impose new ways to shut down clinics and make abortion unavailable.
“We will fight politicians who not only seek to shame, punish, or burden women for making these decisions, but also try to push care out of reach.”
Big ups to the ACLU for doing the Lord's work.
Laws of that kind would pave the way to a total ban on abortion from conception forward.
This law doesn't seem to do that, however, instead only declaring that if the mother unilaterally authorizes the murder of the baby via abortion, she has to tell the father of the baby what she did after the fact.
Inflammatory headline. Must get the father’s consent, not “a man’s permission.”
Yeah, how dare they assume the father is a man? Where have they been lately?
“Inflammatory headline. Must get the father’s consent, not “a man’s permission.””
Yes, when you go to Konbini, it’s clear this is an ACLU-sponsored site. The claim to be fighting for “women’s rights” to healthcare. So I guess to them, killing an unborn child is “healthcare.”
I am not sure how I feel about this law. I am definitely pro-life, but I can imagine circumstances where the father is nothing more than a sperm donor.
I’d agree with it, I suppose, if the father were legally obligated to take care of the little one, pay for clothing, school, food, etc. Perhaps even get up at night when the baby cries?
Oh, I just realized...I am advocating marriage. How old-fashioned of me! /s
Women gave up a lot during the “sexual revolution.”
“fetal remains.”
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I do have a slight problem with this phrasing, however. My sister and I recently buried our father; I would never call him “remains.”
He is, was, and always will be, our Dad.
“So I guess to them, killing an unborn child is “healthcare.”
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To borrow a line from Seinfeld, it’s “healthcare” in bizarro world...
shame, punish, or burden women for making these decisions,
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Obama could have said this...
He doesn’t want his daughters “punished” with a baby...
This also could have been said 50 years ago when I was a teenager...
Shame ??? sex before marriage ...
Punish ??? For sex before marriage ...
Burden ??? Most unwed women weren’t burdened with a baby...they gave the child up for adoption...
The decisions involved with abortion don’t start with planning the gruesome murder of a baby...the first is the decision to have sex outside of marriage...most married women don’t abort their babies...
But I don’t know why these females would be concerned...many men want them to abort the baby so they don’t have to support the child or marry the female...
the playboys claiming women “trick” them into marriage...are just waiting to trap them...will love this
Yeah lol I guess they’re not counting all the other sexes that can make a girl pregnant :)
Sick ####s.
I assume a man needs a WOMAN’S permission to see THEIR child if she is given custoy in a divorce.
Especially if a WOMAN judge decides.
I abhor abortions. But this law seems unconstitutional.
From what I've seen, female judges are more fair to men than male judges. Some male judges see a woman and, like teenage horndogs, fall all over themselves finding ways to sell out.
Just my own personal observation.
The usual English term for this poorly characterized "man" or "individual" is "the baby's father", or, "the man whose child it is".
Is the Birth Control pill a steroid?
Free IUD’s?
Other devices?
Public scourging & hanging of rapists?
Suddenly living in Arkansas has become complex.
Don't tell me, let me guess--she was walking down the street, happened to pass a man, and *WHAM* she was impregnated. Nothing she could have done about it. It's like she was hit by lightning or something.
For the love of all that's good, can't abortion pushers give women even a little bit of credit for having the ability to control whether they engage in activity that might cause pregnancy or not? Yeah, I know--the abortion industry would collapse if suddenly every woman were to tell her partner that either they use protection, or he's not touching her. There is no profit in women who choose to be responsible.
On what basis of what is actually written in the Constitution do you characterize the law as being at odds with the Constitution?
The writer uses the phrase “a man” because the phrase “the father” would affirm that parent’s direct connection to the innocent little preborn baby and the writer doesn’t want to affirm that connection.
Some people define womanhood as a legal right to kill a baby.
You could impugn the character of the mother just as easily as you do the father if you wanted to.
The fact is that fathers are fathers from conception forward just as mothers are mothers from conception forward.
Neither should be preemptively demeaned on the basis of stereotypes much less stripped of the legal right to protect their children’s lives between conception and birth.
Abortion advocates routinely dumb down the meaning of the word consent.
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