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This book is the best account of the discovery and conquest of the Aztec civilization (Mexico). It happened from 1519-1520. This is *the* only real first person account. It is extremely detailed and well written.

It blows the mythology of political correctness to bits.

But that is the case with all factual history.

1 posted on 06/21/2017 7:17:13 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Read parts of this many years ago. Was impressed by how (iirc) the Spanish only had six horses, but that six mounted men were enough to turn the tide in much larger engagements.

Also worthy of note: the nations which had been defeated previously by the Aztecs eagerly joined the Spanish side.


2 posted on 06/21/2017 7:21:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: marktwain

Thanks, this book is sitting on my desk for summer reading at the beach.


3 posted on 06/21/2017 7:25:00 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: marktwain

Me debía leerlo en español.

Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 06/21/2017 7:29:47 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: marktwain

It is a great book. One of the points in it is that Cortez easily convinced the slave tribes to support him against the cannibal Aztecs. You don’t hear much about that from the La Raza people.


6 posted on 06/21/2017 7:36:28 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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To: marktwain

I read it many years ago in High school! I even read Prescott’s version. GREAT HISTORY!
Found a copy of Bernal Dias’ book not long ago and reread it. I considered it such a important book I donated it to the local library.
They tossed it, along with other real history books that I donated, in the Salvation Army bin. I will NEVER give them another book on anything.


7 posted on 06/21/2017 7:37:05 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

I loved the part where a soldier convinced them to build an engine of war he had seen in Europe. From the description given, it was a catapult. It failed.

Then luck was with them when they, during the fight, needed water, dug a well and found fresh water in the middle of an island surrounded salt water.


9 posted on 06/21/2017 7:43:11 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: marktwain

Diaz wrote the book as an old man in his 80s. One of the reasons, I think, that it is so readable is that he wrote it in the plain language of an old soldier, not a scholar. He remembers the horses’ names, but can’t seem to recall the name of the priest who was on the expedition.


10 posted on 06/21/2017 7:44:08 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: marktwain

Agree. Another good book on this same subject is “Conquistador” by Buddy Levy. It fills in some details that Bernal Diaz’s book leaves out, particularly about the naval operations - the building of ships, their disassembly, transportation over the mountains, and fighting on the lake.


14 posted on 06/21/2017 7:49:59 AM PDT by Parmenio
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To: marktwain

Excellent, educational book.
My dad made me read it many decades ago, and its a great corrective to most history - the nitty gritty nature of events, the constant worries about supplies and illness, rewards and personal relationships. In any great event there are the humble agents of it who actually suffer to achieve the result.
The second part of the book, after the familuar spectacle of the first part, which ends with the final campaign against Tenochtitlan, is maybe more educational. It is mainly detailed accounts of the grueling marches of the column of conquest from one Mexican settlement to another, year after year. The real conquest. Conquest was exhausting, tedious, painful.


15 posted on 06/21/2017 7:52:13 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: marktwain

I’ll have to read it. I purchased the book last year.

It’s on the list.


19 posted on 06/21/2017 8:02:16 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


20 posted on 06/21/2017 8:02:35 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: marktwain

I read Bernal Diaz Conquest of New Spain back in the mid 90’s. His description of homosexuality in the priest hood along with human sacrifice was very similar to the practices of the Canaanites described in the Old Testament.

These two peoples had no contact with each other—yet they came up with similar practices. That meant that the bible’s contention that people are bad to the bone. That is —that they have defective gene—is forensically correct.

This turned me into a Christian.


22 posted on 06/21/2017 8:17:49 AM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
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To: marktwain

“The Russians hacked the Aztecs”

Just test driving it.


24 posted on 06/21/2017 8:24:43 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: marktwain

Gutenburg(Project) has his memoirs in a 2 vol. set.


29 posted on 06/21/2017 8:28:49 AM PDT by SanchoP (This post originated from deep inside occupied South Texas.)
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ON line versions.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32474/32474-h/32474-h.htm

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/diaz/diaz.htm

https://archive.org/details/tesisnoqueprese00garcgoog


31 posted on 06/21/2017 8:31:10 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Read it a while back ago. Some of narration that stuck out to me (paraphrased).

1) “We sent three crossbowmen and 3,000 auxiliaries to attack . . . “ THREE freaking crossbowmen? Tells a lot about the technological superiority.

2) “Capt. Sandoval was wounded seven times, only one being serious - a lance wound in the chest where his breath escaped.” (He survived)

3) “The darts flew so fast about me that it reminded me of walking through a field of locusts.” As a kid, I walked across a field and stirred up the grasshoppers, who went “FLRRRR” by my face. A very vivid recall.

4) (I guess the usual practice was to sear a wound, then coat it with grease.) “We ran out of grease for our wounds, so one of the men found a dead fat indian and we used that.” (Note to self: DO NOT mess with these guys.)


43 posted on 06/21/2017 1:32:49 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: marktwain

Discovery of Mexico...

By Bernal Diaz.

Will keep an Eye out for it!


55 posted on 06/21/2017 6:11:11 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: marktwain

thanx samuel


57 posted on 06/21/2017 6:31:07 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: marktwain

Roman counsels had chroniclers with them to record their exports and speeches and victories. Livy a roman historian who covers the first 500 years had access to he records of wealthy families and reconstructs speeches etc.

This is a book I enjoyed about Magellen. He had a chronicler.

Thanx again for your post.

https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=CbJvlgHtDyMC&source=productsearch&utm_source=HA_Desktop_US&utm_medium=SEM&utm_campaign=PLA&pcampaignid=MKTAD0930BO1&gclid=CIjo3aqn0NQCFbIYfgodtZsN8w&gclsrc=ds&dclid=CPKH4qqn0NQCFdOAYgodn5gBBA


58 posted on 06/21/2017 6:35:23 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: marktwain

Excellent info Mr. Twain. My hometown is a stones throw from yours.


74 posted on 04/30/2018 7:22:13 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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