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Why are California liberals pushing so hard to get rid of health insurance?
Sacramento Bee ^ | June 7, 2017 | BY ANGELA HART

Posted on 06/07/2017 2:54:19 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

State Sen. Toni Atkins stood on a stage outside the Capitol last month and made the case for a Democratic-backed bid to transform California’s health care system into something that’s never been done in the U.S.

“People shouldn’t have to experience anxiety over whether they’ll be covered based on who’s in the White House,” Atkins, D-San Diego, told a crowd of nurses and health care advocates who were cheering her on. “It’s time to cover everybody once and for all.”

With Obamacare under assault in Washington by Republicans who see it as a broken system that hamstrings people with high premiums and inadequate access to medical care, Atkins and Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, are pushing a bill through the state Legislature that would replace Obamacare with a government-run system.

Everyone would be covered, including undocumented immigrants. Under the proposal, there would be no need for insurance companies; no more monthly premiums or out-of-pocket costs for doctor visits and prescriptions.

The authors haven’t said exactly how they’d pay the projected cost of $400 billion a year, although they acknowledge it would use existing health care money in addition to new taxes.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; obamacare; rinocare; socialism
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21 posted on 06/07/2017 4:19:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (May the Covfefe be with you...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I had to laugh when they wrote in the article that they did not know what the Calif Nurses Association had to gain. Really? If this passes you will be lucky to see a doctor.


22 posted on 06/07/2017 4:29:18 PM PDT by willk (everyone)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
a crowd of nurses and health care advocates who were cheering her on

And I'm sure they will continue to cheer, even as it is declared that their wages will have to be cut A LOT.

23 posted on 06/07/2017 4:36:52 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

AIDS/HIV and ALL other other homosexual and drug-transferred diseases MUST be covered ... by somebody else’s money!


24 posted on 06/07/2017 4:40:47 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: willk

A great response would be to state that we need to import a large number of nurses and doctors from Mexico who will work for half of the pay. These liberal nurses, etc would understand.


25 posted on 06/07/2017 4:41:34 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

98% of the state thinks they will get “free” healthcare. 1% don’t think they’ll have to pay the tax on it. The last 1% doesn’t care because they will NEVER be subject to the government run mess.


26 posted on 06/07/2017 4:43:21 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Flinging poo is not a valid argument)
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To: willk

Calif nurses will be replaced with state agents, also known as, fake nurses.

Those real nurses will move to neighboring states, who obviously support California’s lunacy.


27 posted on 06/07/2017 4:51:06 PM PDT by TheNext (SLOW FUND Wall = Trump 2020 Trump Jr 2024 Eric 2032)
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Those real nurses will move to neighboring states

Yes, and deadbeats from neighboring states will move to CA for the "free" goodies.

28 posted on 06/07/2017 5:06:07 PM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“People shouldn’t have to experience anxiety over whether they’ll be covered based on who’s in the White House,” Atkins, D-San Diego, told a crowd of nurses and health care advocates who were cheering her on. “

Ms. Akins. Will you be covered under the plan? Let the California assembly and senate be the first ones to sign up for the plan and prove it works.


29 posted on 06/07/2017 5:12:44 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("“In America, we don’t worship government, we worship God.”" DJT)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You know this bill is bad when even a left wing loon like HI Speed Choo Choo Jerry Brown, a strong advocate of throwing away taxpayer money, does not back it.


30 posted on 06/07/2017 5:12:50 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If ‘they’ say it will cost $400 billion it is a safe bet that it will cost around $1,000 billion. All the people who avoid medical care now will rush to get the free stuff, and then there’s all the people who will come from out-of-state. They could come to California, go on welfare while they establish California residency, and then “bingo” - free stuff!!


31 posted on 06/07/2017 5:13:39 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Because they are idiots....


32 posted on 06/07/2017 5:14:16 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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The authors haven’t said exactly how they’d pay the projected cost of $400 billion a year...

Of course not. And you can bet it will cost a lot more than $400 billion...

33 posted on 06/07/2017 5:15:18 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Statewide, 57 percent of adults and 64 percent of likely voters support a single-payer plan, according to the Public Policy Institute of California poll conducted last month. Support falls to roughly 40 percent, however, if the plan raises taxes.”

Typical liberal. They want it but they do not want to pay for it.


34 posted on 06/07/2017 5:15:50 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Don’t eat, you die. Make every Grocery Store and fast food joint give you whatever you want whenever you want for free.

Don’t drink, you die. No more water Bills. For those who won’t drink Faucet Water, tell Fuji, Arrowhead, Sparkletts and every other Producer to give away their Spring Water for free.

Housing. Don’t have a place to live, you will die of exposure. Time for those Homebuilders to give away Houses for free.

I could go on, but you get the drift.

A Right that requires Slave Labor is not a Right. Taxation that requires one person to pay for another’s well being is simply Economic Slavery.


35 posted on 06/07/2017 5:23:09 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Islamiphobia is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.” Christopher)
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To: chuckee

—— They want it but they do not want to pay for it.——

They want it but they can not pay for it.

They lack the personal resources.


36 posted on 06/07/2017 5:25:50 PM PDT by Thibodeaux (the long night is over)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hope they do it so I can have a good laugh.


37 posted on 06/07/2017 6:40:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s all about the illegals, dude. They’re used to socialism. They’re also used to persistant social struggles involving ‘them’ versus ‘the government’ or ‘other thems’ (part and parcel of socialism). The dems love that s&%$. Cowabunga


38 posted on 06/07/2017 7:54:15 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

California might have a chance of doing this if they cut doctors and nurses salaries by 50% or more and then limit their yearly increases to match inflation


39 posted on 06/07/2017 8:45:37 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (It's not gun violence, it's thug violence)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
AIDS/HIV and ALL other other homosexual and drug-transferred diseases MUST be covered ... by somebody else’s money!

The advent of "civil unions" and the corporate embrace of providing medical coverage to "partners" was the start of the skyrocketing medical premiums. The "normal" population of customers was saddled with financing the exorbitant costs of treating people with a terminal, incurable disease. Big mistake.

40 posted on 06/07/2017 9:34:52 PM PDT by Myrddin
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