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Big Bang Blowup at Scientific American
Institute for Creation Research ^ | 5-30-2017 | Jake Hebert, Ph.D.

Posted on 05/30/2017 10:44:18 AM PDT by fishtank

Big Bang Blowup at Scientific American

by Jake Hebert, Ph.D. *

The February 2017 issue of Scientific American contains an article by three prominent theoretical physicists from Princeton and Harvard who strongly question the validity of cosmic inflation, an important part of the modern Big Bang theory.1 They argued that inflation can never be shown to be wrong—it cannot be falsified—and therefore inflation isn’t even a scientific hypothesis.

Inflation theory was proposed by physicist Alan Guth to solve a number of serious problems in early versions of the Big Bang model. Supposedly, the universe underwent an extremely short period of accelerated expansion right after the Big Bang.

However, physicists later realized this version of inflation theory was too simplistic.

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KEYWORDS: creation; liberalmedia; origins; science
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To: fishtank

So what banged, how, and what caused it?


81 posted on 05/30/2017 2:07:42 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: AndyTheBear

>>the Bible doesn’t contain metaphors or analogies or idioms in any of its prophecies or creation narratives.

Nope. Literally never.


82 posted on 05/30/2017 2:11:17 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Hugh the Scot; Telepathic Intruder
>>I’m an engineer, and as such I frequently work with mathematical models post-failure

How do the mathematical models related to Renormalization of QED Near Decoupling Temperature apply to cosmological models and/or practical technological applications; and which elements of the models have failed, exactly?

https://www.hindawi.com/journals/physri/2014/489163/

83 posted on 05/30/2017 2:12:06 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: fishtank

Sheldon gave up string theory and is now among the mud people.
He studies geology.


84 posted on 05/30/2017 2:18:06 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: fishtank
The Big Bang model contains an adjustable parameter called the baryon-to-photon ratio, and this value was chosen by Big Bang theorists to generate amounts of helium

It's all Global Warming and tweaking of models to fit the observations and tweaking the reports of the observations to fit the models. Academic Science is pretty much dead now, replaced by politically desirable myths. Lysenko Rules.

85 posted on 05/30/2017 2:30:18 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: rightwingcrazy

It is AGW in Astrophysics.


86 posted on 05/30/2017 2:31:00 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Rebelbase

#39 and others: The Last Question by Isaac Asimov © 1956
http://multivax.com/last_question.html


87 posted on 05/30/2017 2:33:24 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: TBP

>>So what banged

All of the (E)nergy in the Universe

>>, how,

This model has some attractive and repulsive elements...

https://archive.org/details/ThePlasmaUniversenasaTalk

The religiously anti-Bangerish will be pleased - Won’t they?

>>and what caused it?

God spoke and there was E! That’s what I think.


88 posted on 05/30/2017 2:37:09 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Mr. Douglas

“You would think most “anti-Christian” scientists would reject the big bang for that very reason.”

Hoyle and a couple of others tried arguing for an eternal, steady state universe. But I think they run into something called Olber’s paradox- the night sky would not be dark in such a universe.


89 posted on 05/30/2017 2:42:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate California. Deport Mexico Now)
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To: TBP

It’s important to note that the term “Big Bang” was coined in mockery of the theory, by someone who rejected it (Fred Hoyle). The theory simply says there is an ongoing expansion of space, and that the universe must have originated from a much smaller volume of space (not a particular location in space). There are numerous implications of this, including a hot dense early universe that evolved through many stages into what it is now. But there was no “bang” per se that started it. We don’t know what started it.


90 posted on 05/30/2017 2:47:55 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Hugh the Scot
the current condition of the universe came from outside of the theory.

Nope. It doesn't. It came from the preceding state, which was well known.

Self-referential is the assumption that the current condition of the universe provides evidence of the theory based on observation of the current condition of the universe

It doesn't do that. Learn some science in general, and educate yourself -- preferably somewhere other than The Creation Institute or some other humbug -- about cosmology in particular.

The current condition of the universe is based on past conditions. We can run that clock backward to within literally a few microseconds after the singularity. In particular, as just one example, the relative abundances of light elements in the universe is entirely dictated by very elementary thermodynamic principles. They are not consistent with any literal creation myth, which all make entirely different predictions if one tries to press them into science. (They are legends, so this can't be done.)

"The Big Bang theory cannot seriously be questioned, due to the enormous volume of evidence".

There is roughly as much evidence of what happened in the universe after the first several microseconds as there is that the world is round. That's not my "religion" or anyone else's.

It is not my intention to disprove your religious beliefs.

You would not be able to do that, even in principle, since religious beliefs are outside of that kind of argumentation. What you will not do, is argue that a scientific fact is not a fact because a bogus interpretation of the Bible says it isn't.

The sad thing is that Young Earth Creationism is a relatively new phenomenon, largely created as a reactionary opposition to science. Before the Reformation, there was literally no one who believed that the creation account of Genesis was anything other than a metaphor. Even in the earliest years of Protestant literalism, no serious theologian had waded into those waters. It's strange how the scientific thinking of some (but not all) parts of Reformed Christianity have gone backwards to far more primitive thinking. The original church did not set an age for the Earth; wisely. The Catholics never have.

91 posted on 05/30/2017 2:54:47 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: BitWielder1

>>does that mean the universe would look the same whether there was inflation or not?

Well it might look something like...

https://archive.org/details/ThePlasmaUniversenasaTalk


92 posted on 05/30/2017 2:59:06 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: Pelham

The problem is that the Big Bang does not completely resolve Olber’s Paradox, it just makes things a little calmer. The night sky is bright, but not in wavelengths our eyes can see.


93 posted on 05/30/2017 3:04:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: Leaning Right

Is red-shift settled science?

https://www.google.com/#q=practical+applications+of+doppler+effect

https://www.google.com/#q=observe+red+shift+in+universe+expansion

So, what is your hypothesis explaining the observed inertial velocities of celestial bodies?


94 posted on 05/30/2017 3:07:34 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: spirited irish
Evolution is nothing more than a large number of random time displacements in a phase space which are driven by optimizing principles: the conservation of energy, maximization of entropy. Those operate whether there is biological evolution or not (there is.) They also operate whether the Big Bang happened or not (it did.)

But no biologist needs the latter to infer the former.

95 posted on 05/30/2017 3:09:37 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: FredZarguna

>>largely created as a reactionary opposition

Doesn't really matter what form the disconect from reality takes.

And if it serves to weaken and divide the prey population against them selves - diverting their attention from the predators... so much the better.

 

[The Architects of Western Decline: A Study on the Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTmNWY0ZPfM&t=18m

96 posted on 05/30/2017 3:24:55 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: FredZarguna

Pushing aside the obviously mystical-laden verbiage equating to something on the order of descending (time-displaced) astral planes (phase spaces) emanating out of a quantum void (or One Substance), biological evolution cannot occur without physical matter. Sans physical matter, you’re describing spiritual and/or cosmic evolution.


97 posted on 05/30/2017 3:26:42 PM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
Phase space is a space consisting of all possible states of a physical system. There is nothing new-agey about it, except to people who don't know any physics. Time displacement is a rigorous concept as well, nothing mystical about it.

[Somehow] You seem to have caught on to the fact that biological evolution cannot occur without matter -- congratulations! Unfortunately, you're still clueless about the fact that it makes no difference whether it got here via brane collisions, Hoyle's steady state expansion, the Big Bang, or a Flying Spaghetti Monster.

98 posted on 05/30/2017 3:41:18 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: spirited irish

>>(time-displaced) astral planes (phase spaces)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Calculating+electron+phase+in+covalent+bonds+for+organic+chemistry

Nothing astral required.


99 posted on 05/30/2017 3:52:02 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: spirited irish

>>you’re describing spiritual and/or cosmic evolution.

Nope.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=chemical+bonds+Mutation

The science of chemistry is applied physics — described in mathematical terms which calculate time displacement and phase of molecular components.


100 posted on 05/30/2017 4:09:04 PM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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