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President Donald J. Trump and the Free Republic of the United States of America
My own thoughts | 05/28/2017 | DoughtyOne

Posted on 05/28/2017 5:11:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

Edited on 06/27/2017 12:47:00 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Over the years I have observed the things Conservatives ask for.  You see, at times they get them.  When they do, they sometimes don't seem to notice or be happy about those things being converted into actual policy, or bills that are signed into law.

For literally decades I grew older as I observed the Republicans in the House of Representatives and the U.S. Senate, lament being in the minority.  Very few times in my 66 years, have the Republicans in the House and Senate, realized a majority at the same time we have had a Republican president.  Now is one of those rare times.  And yet...

The word "dreamers" has been attached to a group who are not citizens of the United States.  That's a shame, because our own citizens have dreams that should and MUST take priority.  Our nation needs to be sound.  That comes before anything else.

I tossed that in, because our citizens had dreams too.  Their dreams unlike the others, were in the best interests of our nation.  Those who loved this nation dreamed of a time when all the Leftward drift could be addressed.  Deficit spending, tens of millions of illegal aliens, potential terrorists flooding into the United States, other "refugees" coming in numbers that COULD NOT be assimilated, were also very disconcerting.  These groups WERE at times NOT desirous of melding into the fabric of our nation.  Even if they were not intent on committing acts of terrorism, they were intent on changing the United States to their liking, and simply refusing to become Americanized.  Then there was the Leftist/Socialist/Marxist/Communist takeover of 1/6of our economy that had to be addressed, in the name of Obamacare.  There was also a desire to address Right to Life, deficit spending, our veteran's needs and our military.  There were international issues, and the need to back off the rush to combat the non-existent man made global warming.

We have seen the rule of law turned on it's head.  We see people attack the police, threaten their lives, and then meet with fatal results for being a threat to an officer of the law.  Then groups form to assert a false narrative, decry reasoned justice, then advocate for civil unrest, riots, and payback.  This payback is not then limited to the police.  It is parceled out to segments of the public irrationally.  We had a president and a political party that championed this.  We have universities that have championed it.  We had an MSM and entertainment industry that championed it.  We have billionaire enemies of the United States who champion it.  We have Leftist groups that are paid to riot, deny civil rights, and physically attack the people they disagree with.  We have universities that are run with U.S. government funds (at least in part), who refuse to allow Conservatives to make public presentations on their campus.

We have people aiding, abetting, and paying those participating in civil unrest and the denial of the civil rights of others.  We have a full blown race war going on right now, that is ultimately one-sided.  We also have a gender war raging at this time that is one sided.  White males have been deemed fair targets and deserving of racial and gender hatred and civil rights denials.

A president who was himself a racist, and that saw things diametrically opposed to loyalist United States citizens, was replaced by the voting public, with a man that wanted to return the United States to reasoned values.

Donald J. Trump was elected and provided a Republican House and Senate, so that he could turn things around.  Many of us were thrilled to see this.  Others were circumspect, would Trump follow through with his promises?

Folks, President Trump has followed through on almost all of this promises.  He has either written Executive Orders that strike down past Executive Orders, or he has supported legislation to get things done.  He has supported budget fixes to things.

Trump has already addressed, Right to Life, an incredibly good SCOTUS appointment, global warming efforts, illegal aliens, criminal aliens, government spending, downsizing departments, reducing over-regulation, and the influx of immigrants from terrorist nations.  He has opened up a bid process to build a wall on our southern border, and has started replacing fence in some areas with a 20 foot tall rugged steel barrier.  His announced policies have seen a 75 to 85% reduction in illegal aliens crossing the border.  He means business on this, and he is following through.

Is Trump the man those who supported him thought he would be?  Yes.  He is unquestionably the best president we have had since January 20th, 1989.  What's in question is whether he will continue to exhibit this level of support for Conservative causes, and eclipse President Ronald Reagan, as our best president of the "modern era", and possibly since the nation's founding.

What President Trump faced when becoming President of the United States, was monumental.  Almost every single category we could mention needed massive course correction.  I can't think of a single one that didn't.  On top of that, race relations were at their worst level in sixty years.  The lie that spawned the Black Lives Matter movement had been bought into by major Leftist papers and the President of the United States.  Racial support groups and our universities signed on.  "Permission" was given for people to go rogue rioting and beating people of a different color in public.  Not one word of condemnation was uttered to criticize this or put an end to it.

What could have been worse, when Trump took over?  Hardly anything.

As if that wasn't bad enough, we had Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and others advocating for open warfare against Russia.  If the Left had gotten Hillary Clinton elected, I shudder (and many of you do too) what our future would have been.  Luckily, we elected a man that was solid on the issues prior to being elected, and solid on them since, with very few exceptions.

Isn't that great!  Well?  You know folks, I return to the thought in the first paragraph now.  Do we as Conservatives recognize how good we have it?   Do we appreciate what has taken place?  Do we as a group universally offer up kudos to President Trump each day?  Well..., do we?  Many folks here do.  Many do, but not without a barb tossed in most of the time.  And then there are those who simply refuse to acknowledge how good Trump is.  Folks, he has been very good.

As of the writing of this commentary, Trump has not sided with our enemies once.  If you look at what he has advocated, what he has deemed the best he could hope to do right now, he has outperformed expectations on almost every single issue.

In light of these some of us praise him.  In light of his actions, others say they support him and include a barb in many of their posts.  Still others don't even bother to post something nice, they just go for the jugular based on some perceived infraction.  Let's look at four of those.

Trump has been in office for four months and a week.  That's 128 days today.

In that 128 days, he has failed to repeal and replace Obamacare.  He has failed to get the wall going.  He has failed to overturn DACA.  He has appointed his daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner as his assistants.

Trump advocated for the Ryan Health Care bill.  Most of us, myself included, criticized that.  We didn't want what we perceived as Obamacare lite.  Was that reasoned?  I believe so.  We had to make it known we didn't want a governmental health care plan.  We voiced our opinions, and the Conservative Caucus in the House refused to sign on.  That bill was DOA.  I think most of us were happy about that.  The president made some unfortunate comments about the failure, but was soon on the march toward a different version of the bill, once again submitted by Speaker Paul Ryan.  Trump advocated for it's passage.  As part of the bill, Planned Parenthood was completely refunded.  It passed by four votes in the House.  Just four folks...

Over in the U.S. Senate, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell appointed Senator Ted Cruz to come up with an alternate bill.  He didn't think the House bill could pass the Senate.  He designed his effort as a straight committee to floor vote strategy.  Cruz and his committee would come up with the best they could, and the Senate would vote up and down on it.  This way it couldn't stall in committee and fail to even come to a floor vote.

The facts are these.  The House barely passed it's bill.  The Senate will have a very hard time passing it's version.  What does this tell us?  It tells us, that we came about as close as we could to not being able to pass a bill in the House.  It appears that is the same case in the Senate.  If we had held out for more, it may have been an easier sell in the House, but may have doomed it in the Senate.  Whatever the Senate comes up with may cost votes in the House.  This thing is teetering right now, pass or no pass.

It's fairly clear this is the best we can do right now.  In 2018, we're hopeful to get a 60% majority in the U.S. Senate, and a better margin in the House than we have today.  We either go with what we can get right now, or chance not getting anything done.

As for the wall on the border, Trump put out bids and there was a robust response.  Companies will be building concepts.  A selection will be made.  Meanwhile Trump is replacing some industrial fencing with a formidable steel barrier.  I think this is reasoned progress for the first 128 days.  Some folks have looked at his budget requests, and don't think he put enough money in for the wall.  I have come to trust Trump.  With what he has already done, and with the process he has started, I expect him to follow through, and I don't think that is unreasonable to do.

As for failing to overturn DACA (I may be using the wrong name here, I think you'll know what I mean), I believe detractors have a reasoned beef.  As we address these things, there is a factor that I think a lot of folks are failing to take into consideration.  Were Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Johnson, or Kennedy better on immigration reform than Trump?  Even failing to take action on DACA, Trump has still advocated more and implemented more to address illegal immigrants than any president since at last the 1960s.  As this (DACA) relates to the rest of his actions, it may wind up being the one true failure for Trump to follow through.  If, heaven forbid it should remain that way, would this one thing cause us to see Trump as a complete failure for our cause?  I don't think so folks, and it's unfathomable for me to think of all the things he has addressed, for him to be seen as a failure based on this alone.  Even failing this, he will have done more to stop and reverse the illegal alien onslaught than any president in nearly 80 years.

Now comes the nepotism charge.  Ivanka and Jared are family, and Trump brought them in to assist him for no pay.  Both Ivanka and Jared have the ability to make a very handsome income each year, but both have come to the White House to help her father the president, for no salary.  They may serve as much as eight years for no salary.  Many have trashed them.  I am here to praise them.  We ask for selfless people to come to Washington and help clean the place up, but when two people do just that, some of us have taken many a pot shot at them and the president for them being there at all.  That is terribly misguided.

Ivanka and Jared have made their thoughts known on access to abortion, and the efforts addressing global warming.  None the less, the president has implemented his policy, not theirs.  Over Trump's life he came to believe what he does, and almost all of it aligns with our beliefs.  Despite his daughter holding different beliefs, he developed his core beliefs that are different, amazingly similar to ours.  Now, for some reason, folks have been very nervous that he would toss his beliefs overboard and adopt Ivanka or Jared's.  If he didn't do that in years past, why would he now?  Still some folks have been convinced that was about to happen.  No, it wasn't about to happen.

So what do we see on the forum today?  We see folks very happy at what is taking place.  They have evaluated Trump's promises and actions up to now, and they approve.  They still care about policy and won't let Trump stray too far, but they do trust him.  They keep watching, and if he starts to blow it, they'll address it, as they should.  They won't fly off the handle hourly.  It's just not like them to do that.  They are positive people, and recognize in Trump a positive person.  They know he hasn't been lying.  Everyone should by now.

Then there's a group whose posts go something like this.  Yes, Trump has been great on this topic, but I just have to bring up the subject of "X" here, because I can't stand to give him kudos without offsetting them with a dig.  They insert issue 1-4 at will, even if issues 1-4 have nothing to do with the topic of the thread or not.  Then they wind up saying, but you know I really support Trump and think he's doing a wonderful job, and I want him to continue on like this.  This last part is so they can always claim to support him, even if they have made an unforced dig against him that is totally irrational when they did it.

Then there is the third group.  A few people will come on to a positive thread, and not even address the topic of the thread.  They raise issue 1-4 and trash him on that count.

Folks, everyone here should hold Trump's feet to the fire.  They just need to do it in a reasoned manner.  If it's the topic of the thread, address it rationally.  If it's not the topic of the thread, address the topic of the thread and other than that, shut up!  You're not introducing anything constructive.  You're just undercutting Trump.  Period.  Stop it!  This not Democrat Underground.

After a lifetime of pent up need for Conservatives to turn this nation back to the Right, we find that 128 days into the Trump administration, the Republicans had no game plan.  They didn't have any legislation waiting to be presented to Trump.  They have basically had 28 years to come up with "dream" legislation.  They have nothing!  Trump is therefore seeking to turn the nation back to the Right all by himself.

We have a House and Senate that are not helping Trump.  They are standing with arms folded.  When Trump comes under attack, they remain mute.  Democrats like Maxine Waters and many others tee off on Trump, demand his impeachment, and other things against him.  They criticize wildly and constantly.  They claim a Trump/Russian conspiracy and raise the impeachment word.  From the Republicans, NOTHING!  They don't do their jobs.  They don't defend their own team.

Trump has no help in the House or Senate.  He has no help in the MSM.  The WP, NYT, USA Today, and the WSJ are constantly attacking Trump, Trump's people, and Trump's policies.  These entities also support the BLM, a racist movement.  Then you have the blogosphere, which has gone mostly South.  There are a few places still decent, but not many.  Drudge is still pretty good.  The Conservative TreeHouse and Breitbart are still good.  That's about it folks.

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Interestingly enough, this last year we had one guy that has always struck people as Conservative.  He struck me as Conservative at first.  Then I dug deeper and I recognized a guy playing fast and loose with the comments, yet not close to the chest on votes.  His talk was pretty good, as it had always been, but some of his policies and votes were troubling.  During the campaign many folks saw chinks in his armor, and their support for him cracked, shattered, and fell away.  Those who failed to see his problems remained loyal to him.  At one point there was a NeverTrump movement, and for all intents and purposes, the candidate and many of his followers became NeverTrumpers.  Some will say he never adopted that stance himself, but failing to endorse at the convention and only provide token support post the convention, most of us saw a NeverTrumper in him.

Today, some of these people are the ones who feel compelled to insert criticism of Trump into non related threads.  It's unfortunate, but it is what it is.  After 128 days, these people have had a chance to observe Trump and judge who and what he is.  At this point, only a die-hard NeverTrumper could find fault with this man.  Some of us have grown tired of the anti-Trump carping.

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These are my thoughts.

Let me know what yours are.

I will not address them until tomorrow afternoon.

1 posted on 05/28/2017 5:11:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

Very good post.

Well done.

Bookmarking this thread.

2 posted on 05/28/2017 5:15:29 PM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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3 posted on 05/28/2017 5:16:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well said!

4 posted on 05/28/2017 5:18:43 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Amen, bro.

I confess I've taken a few potshots at President Trump, but, for the most part, I've been very supportive of him.

TrumpCare was something I also criticized and I am wary of his Parental Leave Act.

We do have much to be appreciative of but we need to be careful we don't become complacent or, even worse, mute, when the time calls for it.

I, for one, hereby commit to taking fewer potshots.

Well done.

5 posted on 05/28/2017 5:20:12 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Well said. !!!!!

6 posted on 05/28/2017 5:24:18 PM PDT by Fungi (No tagline. Suggestions invited.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Nicely put!

7 posted on 05/28/2017 5:32:37 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: DoughtyOne
I for one have not wavered one bit... I'm still 100% behind our president. I'm a realist and a pragmatist. I understand the forces aligned against him (and against us). I realize it's going to take time to start to right the ship of state after so many years/decades of neglect.

Even under the best of circumstances, I would likely never agree to 100% of the things any president does... there are many issues, and no one agrees with ME on everything I think... that's reality.

Trump has the guts, energy and brains required to make progress in the difficult (seemingly impossible) task of ridding our government of rampant corruption and waste. I don't know of anyone else alive today who has more potential in that regard.

I'm going to stand with him on the big issues and not sweat the minor issues. Losing this opportunity now is unthinkable.

8 posted on 05/28/2017 5:36:10 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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Bumped to frontpage! Excellent work like this deserves as much exposure as possible. The Bloggers category doesn’t do it justice. I’ll be bumping it to breaking once it gets pushed down the fp sidebar by new threads.

10 posted on 05/28/2017 5:41:16 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Great Post!

11 posted on 05/28/2017 5:41:28 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: DoughtyOne

Outstanding post!!!

12 posted on 05/28/2017 5:43:03 PM PDT by TheStickman (And their fear tastes like sunshine puked up by unicorns.)
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Excellent post. May God bless you this Memorial Day weekend.

13 posted on 05/28/2017 5:45:23 PM PDT by Shark24
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An excellent post which sums up much of my current thinking.

There is no doubt in my mind that Trump’s victory last November was nothing less than a miracle of divine intervention. A Hellary victory would have been the end of the Republic.... There would have been no more constitution and there would be Gulags across the country. Yet.... Against all odds her demonic Marxism was defeated.

President Trump has shown himself to be courageous and wise yet he is a mortal man at the end of the day. He will err and things won’t always go to plan. It’s at moments like that it’s CRUCIAL that all patriots stand behind Trump in these hours as the Marxists will never cease in their efforts to destroy Trump, and consequently, our country.

14 posted on 05/28/2017 5:47:21 PM PDT by WashingtonFire (President Trump - it's like having your dad as President !)
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15 posted on 05/28/2017 5:48:10 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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They have basically had 28 years to come up with “dream” legislation. They have nothing!

They have different dreams, most of the GOP are Cheap Labor Express Republicans who dream of continuing to import cheap labor for their donors.
They voice opposition for Obamacare but secretly want to keep it or even go to single payer to take that burden off their corporate donors.
I have been one of the more vocal about DACA.
It really is my only beef with President Trump.
Candidate Trump rightly said that it was unconstitutional and illegal and he would end it immediately.
Now it looks like it will not end at all.
It did not become constitutional and legal when he took office. It is hypocritical to demand cities abandon their sanctuary policies while providing sanctuary.
It is not possible to restore the rule of law while practicing lawlessness. DACA has no basis in law, Obama made it up out of thin air. They are still illegal aliens.
In deference to other freepers, I will try to tone it down, but it is a broken promise whether anyone wants to admit it or not.

16 posted on 05/28/2017 5:51:16 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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I will not address them until tomorrow afternoon.

Bump to read tomorrow at noon.

17 posted on 05/28/2017 5:56:02 PM PDT by palmer (turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure)
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Way to go really well done!! We need to support FR now more than ever!!

18 posted on 05/28/2017 5:58:38 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the Free because of the brave.MAGA!!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Thanks, D1.


19 posted on 05/28/2017 5:58:48 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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Outstanding commentary, D1!

As you pointed out, in the first 128 days of the Donald
Trump presidency he's done much to counter what 0bama
(along with liberals, leftists and outright America haters
around the world) have done to our nation and it isn't pretty.

Give our new President Trump a chance and I've no doubt he
will succeed in undoing the travesties of the last 8 years.

Thank you for this commentary, it's something that was needed.


Please bump the Freepathon or click above to donate or become a monthly donor!

20 posted on 05/28/2017 6:02:05 PM PDT by jazusamo (Have YOU Donated to Free Republic?
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