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Putin & Trump Discuss Iranians on Israel’s Border (proposed de-escalation zones in Syria)
Debkafiles ^ | May 3, 2017, 7:54 PM (IDT)

Posted on 05/04/2017 12:44:21 PM PDT by drewh

Israel was seriously dismayed when first reports reached Jerusalem about the telephone conversation between Presidents Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin Tuesday, during which Trump agreed to consider Putin’s plan for “de-escalation zones” in Syria, in place of the American security zones proposal. The Russian president’s plan includes the posting of Iranian military officers as co-monitors for those zones, one of which is to be located on the Syrian-Israeli border.

President Trump described the conversation as “Very good.”

The four “de-escalation zones” proposed would be situated at:

1. The northwestern province of Idlib up to the Turkish border;

2. The central Syrian province of Homs (where also the Al-Shariat air base hit by US Tomahawks last month is located);

3. The East Ghouta suburb of Damascus (including also a big military airfield);

4. The Southern region along Syria’s borders with Jordan and Syria.

The Russian president explained that the “guarantor countries” – i.e. Russia, Turkey and Iran - would appoint the monitors for the de-escalation zones.

Military and intelligence sources report that Israel was deeply concerned to discover that President Trump had nodded to Putin going forward with his plan, despite Iran’s active involvement. He was even ready to send a US official for the first time to the fourth round of the Syrian peace talks between the Syrian government and opposition in Astana Wednesday, although this process is jointly sponsored by Russia, Turkey and Iran. Stuart Jones, acting assistant Secretary of State, was sent to attend the meeting in the Kazakh capital as an observer, thereby elevating the former American representation from ambassador..

This development caused Israeli disquiet on a number of grounds:

a) The Iranian monitors for the new zones will sit directly opposite the Israeli border. Notice has gone out to Washington and Moscow that the Israeli government will on no account countenance an Iran military presence along its border.

b) Israel also eyes with mistrust the possible deployment of Russian and Turkish offices along its border with Syria.

c) Declaring eastern Damascus a protected zone would obstruct Israel aerial operations for keeping Iranian air shipments of advanced weapons via Syria out of Hizballah’s hands. Iran would be able to renew its shipments under full protection.

d) There were also some misgivings in Israel about the way National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster characterized President Trump’s approach to foreign policy, shortly before Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas arrived at the White House on Wednesday. “The president is not a super-patient man,” he said. He does not have time to “debate over doctrine, and instead seeks to challenge failed policies of the past with a businessman’s results-oriented approach,” McMaster said.

The trouble is that Middle East issues, such as the Syrian conflict and Israeli security, demand patience and rather more than a businessman’s results-oriented approach, else they may lead to such potentially disastrous consequences as an Iranian military presence that is far too near and dangerous for Israel to countenance.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/04/2017 12:44:21 PM PDT by drewh
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To: drewh
There were also some misgivings in Israel about the way National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster characterized President Trump’s approach to foreign policy, shortly before Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas arrived at the White House on Wednesday. “The president is not a super-patient man,” he said. He does not have time to “debate over doctrine, and instead seeks to challenge failed policies of the past with a businessman’s results-oriented approach,” McMaster said.

Whether ANY of this story is true (Debka, after all), I agree that McMaster is the worst actor in this entire administration. A dangerous Islamophile and Israel-hater who would have fit in well as Obama's NSA.

2 posted on 05/04/2017 12:50:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: drewh

This is Debka, so it’s more than likely nonsense.

I would not want a safe zone in the hot spot by the Golan Heights, with an Iranian overseer, backed up by Russia and Turkey.

Trump didn’t just fall off the turnip truck. I don’t think he’d buy into this either.

Syria wants the Golan Heights back, and it wouldn’t take much imagination to see how false refugees could be amassed in the region so the Iranians could move in and help Syria.

That would not be good.


3 posted on 05/04/2017 1:14:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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This is an interesting take on what is actually happening in the Golan Heights. It has all the markings of The Swamp.
4 posted on 05/04/2017 1:17:56 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Thanks for the mention. No, it doesn’t look good.

Heck, this has been flying under the radar for a long time, I’m sure.


5 posted on 05/04/2017 1:28:10 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Happy days are here again!)
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To: drewh

Cool, so we are going to hire wolves to watch the hen house? What could go wrong there?


6 posted on 05/04/2017 1:53:16 PM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: drewh
"Iranian monitors for the new zonesl sitting directly opposite the Israeli border"

Come on now. Thats a non-starter even for the most ignorant. The only folks who would suggest that are true enemies of the state of Israel.

If true (I doubt it) . . . conversation would have ended in that moment.

7 posted on 05/04/2017 5:43:57 PM PDT by saywhatagain
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To: drewh

Debka strikes again!!!

Any safety zones will correspond very closely to Kurdish held areas and won’t happen until Raqqa is taken.


8 posted on 05/05/2017 9:13:04 AM PDT by gandalftb
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