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Trump 'very happy' with bill outlawing future border wall
American Thinker ^ | 5/2/17 | Ed Straker

Posted on 05/02/2017 5:46:04 AM PDT by chiller

While it's commonly known by now that the new spending bill that Congress and the Trump administration agreed to funds mostly Democratic priorities, and doesn't fund President Trump's border wall, what's not widely known is that the new legislation goes even farther than this. Not only does it not fund the border wall, but it prevents the government from constructing a border wall with any funds.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; 3dchess; borderwall; budget; buildthewall; federalfunding; genius; immigration; thewall; trump; trump45; trumpsplaining
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To: nathanbedford

LoL! I knew.


101 posted on 05/02/2017 7:19:01 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: fluorescence

I need to hire a law firm to figure that out.


102 posted on 05/02/2017 7:19:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Cboldt; All; Liz

The 2017 Omnibus hasn’t even been introduced in the House yet. No bill number, just action out of the Committee.
Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2017 - all 1665 pages, 2.9Mb pdf file

I’ve half-assed searched for the prohibition asserted by the OP. Maybe it’s in there, I don’t know. Page 739 allocates $341,200,000 to replace approximately 40 miles of border fence
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From the article a hypertext link to Washington times article with the link below.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/05/01/daily-202-eight-ways-trump-got-rolled-in-his-first-budget-negotiation/590687f2e9b69b3a72331f09/?utm_term=.b7a64f14d045

From here you can get the department breakdown

http://appropriations.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=394859

Homeland security pdf
https://appropriations.house.gov/uploadedfiles/05.01.17_fy_2017_omnibus_-_homeland_security_-_summary.pdf


103 posted on 05/02/2017 7:20:13 AM PDT by Whenifhow (when, if and how will Obama be gone?)
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To: chiller

This is a travesty,an utter disaster.

It brings back all the bitter disappointments that I felt with Arnold Schwarzenegger, only multiplied by 50 because it’s on a national scale.

Let’s face it we have another Arnold in the white house,and it will have the same consequences nationwide.

I’m disgusted beyond belief. We thought we had elected a fighter, a leader instead we got a caver.


104 posted on 05/02/2017 7:20:17 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: fluorescence
That's "GENERAL PROVISIONS" boilerplate.

If that's it, then I'm taking the OP as fake news, designed to discredit Trump. The author of the article, Ed Straker, has demonstrated being untrustworthy as a source of information.

105 posted on 05/02/2017 7:20:29 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: chiller

I’m beginning to think that Trump simply doesn’t know how to negotiate without some sort of tremendous financial leverage.

The President NEVER has that. All he has is political leverage, and I don’t think Trump has figured out how to use that yet.


106 posted on 05/02/2017 7:21:07 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: chiller
I get the feeling he'd like to build a border wall if it would be easy. But he is afraid to take on the Democrats to get it done. If Ronald Reagan were president he would have shut down the government before signing such a bill

What a load of crap. Reagan granted amnesty to illegals and he also agreed to $1 of tax increases for $2 of spending cuts in the future that never happened.

107 posted on 05/02/2017 7:24:00 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Responsibility2nd
The Republicans have a majority of the House, the Senate, the White House, and now even the Supreme Court.

Yet the Democrats still have control. Go figure.

Figure this way: the establishment Republican Party does not agree with the conservative philosophy so to expect them to behave otherwise is simply foolhardy.

Trump won the election. Nothing else really changed

What evidence do we have that Trump is different from the establishment Republican Party? His behavior respecting the repeal of Obama care? Hardly! His acquiescence in this continuing resolution? Hardly! His biography? Hardly! His associates with whom he has surrounded himself after deploring Goldman Sachs and Wall Street? Hardly! His daughter and son-in-law? Hardly!

Apart from the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice from a list proffered to him by conservatives and a series of executive orders, just what leads any rational person to believe that Donald Trump is other than the man who was going to acquiesce in the continuing resolution just as he supported the pernicious Ryan care bill and who threatened conservatives of the freedom Caucus?

Trump deserves no pass on this. If he does not veto this bill and go to the country he will have forfeited the allegiance of any conservative with conscience.


108 posted on 05/02/2017 7:25:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: Whenifhow

Meanwhile, Trump’s actual proposed first budget, which will be for fiscal 2018, calls specifically for $2.6 billion for a “physical wall”. I’ll wait and panic when Trump surrenders on his own actual proposal.

See Page 23:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/2018_blueprint.pdf


109 posted on 05/02/2017 7:25:12 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: chiller

“DjT surely can not be aware of this...”

He knows. He’s known for at least the last two or three days now.


110 posted on 05/02/2017 7:25:28 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Whenifhow
So, out of all those citations, only the WaPo article (by James Hohmann) makes the claim that ...

There are explicit restrictions to block the border wall. We knew last week there would be no money to start construction on a project that the president says is more important to his base than anything else. But the final agreement goes further, putting strict limitations on how Trump can use new money for border security (e.g. to invest in new technology and repair existing fencing)

It's Washington Post. Of course it is misleading (at best).

111 posted on 05/02/2017 7:29:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: OldGuard1

I thought these funds were still part of the FY 2017 funding? I am not pleased with anything this idiot Ryan does or is a party to. Ryan is a young punk IMHO who has never had a real job period.


112 posted on 05/02/2017 7:44:30 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: laconic

Frankly, I believe Trump is trying to rile these sorry as-RINO’s into fighting as a TEAM.


113 posted on 05/02/2017 7:46:46 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: COBOL2Java
And there are those here trying to say "Have no fear! Take courage, everyone! The 2018 budget will be better! It will be different!"

It would be more accurate to acknowledge that President Trump himself is saying that.

114 posted on 05/02/2017 7:48:54 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: nathanbedford
Trump deserves no pass on this. If he does not veto this bill and go to the country he will have forfeited the allegiance of any conservative with conscience.

 

Why would he veto the bill? You've pointed out many reasons why Trump is no different than the average RINO, so no. He won't veto it. Besides - his veto would be overturned by the Uni-party establishment and thereby would add one more loss to the Trump agenda.

Nathan, you're a smat guy. So answer me this. Why are so many FReepers upset that no funding for the Wall was going to be in a CR budget? And it appears no Wall money will be forthcoming in the September proposal. So what? Didn't Trump promise us (in every campaign rally) that MEXICO was going to pay for the Wall?

115 posted on 05/02/2017 7:51:01 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

"...it is called the Uniparty..."


You can say that again. They undoubtedly all go to the same little Washington, D.C. parties and laugh at us.

116 posted on 05/02/2017 7:53:22 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: Balding_Eagle
It would be more accurate to acknowledge that President Trump himself is saying that.

President Trump is on Free Republic? LOL! Who knew!

117 posted on 05/02/2017 7:55:35 AM PDT by COBOL2Java ("Game over, man, game over!" (my advice to DemocRATs))
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To: chiller
Not only does it not fund the border wall, but it prevents the government from constructing a border wall with any funds.

Well, if this true he just threw away his presidency and threw the American people under the bus.

118 posted on 05/02/2017 7:58:22 AM PDT by libertylover (In 2016 small-town America got tired of being governed by people who don't know a boy from a girl.)
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To: Cboldt

“Our country needs a good “shutdown” in September to fix mess!”

Why wait?


119 posted on 05/02/2017 8:00:08 AM PDT by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: Cboldt
RE:”The reason for the plan negotiated between the Republicans and Democrats is that we need 60 votes in the Senate which are not there!.either elect more Republican Senators in 2018 or change the rules now to 51%. Our country needs a good “shutdown” in September to fix mess!”

Contradictory as usual.
He doesn't explain why he didn't veto the budget if he wants a shutdown, many here called him to do just that.

Senate Republicans are not changing those Senate rules.
He must know that.

Don't expect anything different in October.
(since the budget lasts till the end of September it would be October not September)

How about budget reconciliation?
Wasn't that how they claimed they would ‘replace’ Obamacare?

120 posted on 05/02/2017 8:00:10 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Trump "Mexico will pay for the Wall! Mark my words")
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