[Responsibility2nd]

Trump deserves no pass on this. If he does not veto this bill and go to the country he will have forfeited the allegiance of any conservative with conscience.

 

Why would he veto the bill? You've pointed out many reasons why Trump is no different than the average RINO, so no. He won't veto it. Besides - his veto would be overturned by the Uni-party establishment and thereby would add one more loss to the Trump agenda.

Nathan, you're a smat guy. So answer me this. Why are so many FReepers upset that no funding for the Wall was going to be in a CR budget? And it appears no Wall money will be forthcoming in the September proposal. So what? Didn't Trump promise us (in every campaign rally) that MEXICO was going to pay for the Wall?

[nathanbedford]

There is a very real danger to the country if Trump does not veto this bill.

The wall is a metaphor for the Trump campaign, if he abandons any pretext of building the wall the entire reason for his campaign is abandoned.

Obviously, he does not take this step to abandon the wall lightly. It means that he has considered his options and concluded that he will govern with a coalition of rinos and Democrats, whom we now see are the very people who fashioned this dreadful budget extension, and he will govern against the interests of the people who elected him.

This is as I warned before his nomination.

If on the other hand he takes the matter to the country on the heels of a veto which will have shut down the government, he has a chance to save his presidency. Even if he fails in that effort and has to ultimately accede to the provisions of this bill and open the government again, he will have retained the loyalty of the people and he will remain their champion. He will have credibility to fight again.

As I said, the choice is that stark and that Manichaean. If he will not risk his presidency on this issue he will lose it.