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Byron York: Why can't House repeal Obamacare? Because a lot of Republicans don't want to
washington examiner ^ | Apr 27, 2017, 9:51 PM | Byron York

Posted on 04/29/2017 11:09:55 AM PDT by Monorprise

"We're going to go when we have the votes," Speaker Paul Ryan said Thursday when asked when the House will pass a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare. Lawmakers will not be constrained by any "artificial deadline," Ryan declared.

On March 24, when the Speaker pulled the GOP Obamacare bill before what would have been a sure defeat, he said, "We're going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future."

But why? Republicans have 238 seats in the House. Repealing Obamacare will require 217 votes. Even with unanimous Democratic opposition, Republicans could lose 21 votes and still prevail on repeal. Why haven't they done it?

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"It's not full repeal. I will be honest, it's not," Rep. Jim Jordan told Fox News on Wednesday. "But it's as good as we think we can get right now."

"We've given up on trying to get this bill repealed, basically," Rep. Louie Gohmert told Fox Business on Tuesday. "But we've been demanding at least let's repeal some of the provisions that we know will bring down rates."

Some Republicans remain optimistic, but in a much longer-term sense. "The process of removing a 2,300-page law with 20,000 pages of rules can't be done in one vote," says the member who estimated that 25 to 30 Republicans don't want to vote for repeal. "The process will take two years."

The Republican-controlled House and Senate both voted to repeal Obamacare in January 2016. In the House, 239 Republicans voted for repeal, while three voted against it and four did not vote. President Obama, of course, vetoed the bill. ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; byronyork; congress; corruption; elections; exemptvsamerica; first100days; gopalwayslies; gopvsamerica; gopvsvoters; obamacare; repealandreplace; rinos; romneyagenda; romneycare; romneycare4ever; romneywilldecide
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To: Monorprise

There is no repeal on the table to vote against.
They don’t even want to vote for the rearrange and repair bill.


61 posted on 04/29/2017 5:19:30 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Monorprise

4 l8r - thanks


62 posted on 04/29/2017 5:34:58 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: Monorprise
"The process of removing a 2,300-page law with 20,000 pages of rules can't be done in one vote"

It was rammed up our butt with one vote, so why not, pray tell?

63 posted on 04/29/2017 8:50:49 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Monorprise
They have taken their lead from Trump himself. He used that term "repealand Replace" right from the beginning. He is a businessman. He gets good deals. He is more and more resembling a financial expert rather than an economist. There is a difference, a very important difference. Most professional economists are, in fact, financial experts, skilled in moving money and making the movement efficient with no consideration that the methods might be harmful to the rest of the population and damaging to the economy. They are very efficient but wear blinders to keep their focus narrow.Goldman Sachs people are the best at it but they are NOT economists.
64 posted on 04/29/2017 8:52:31 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Monorprise

The problem is not one “caucus.” It is the whole Party. How many dissenters were there in the election of Paul Ryan as Speaker? One, I think.


65 posted on 04/29/2017 8:54:08 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Bratch
The Republicans don't want to repeal obamacare. The Democrats are principled leftist totalitarians which condition is indistinguishable in most respects from being just plain Corrupt. The Republicans are just plain Corrupt. They have no principle involved beyond their wealth prospects.
66 posted on 04/29/2017 8:57:00 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: Bratch

So if I take you correctly, retroactively making it a capital crime to have voted for Ebolacare and turning their houses into public toilets is a bridge too far on the first vote?


67 posted on 04/29/2017 9:09:11 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Monorprise

It took 7 years to install it. Shouldn’t take that long to repeal.


68 posted on 04/29/2017 9:28:01 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: stylin19a

Excellent.


69 posted on 04/29/2017 9:34:06 PM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: Monorprise

...........I agree but I would bet money that Steve Bannon could name them all in about 5 minutes. Indeed, he probably already has a List !


70 posted on 04/29/2017 9:34:07 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cen-Tejas

“...........I agree but I would bet money that Steve Bannon could name them all in about 5 minutes. Indeed, he probably already has a List !”

maybe he could, and if it is Ryan and Trump that refuse to play the card then Steve’s next move is to leak it out to the press so we can go after theses RINO’s as the real problem.


71 posted on 04/30/2017 8:17:20 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: arthurus

“The problem is not one “caucus.” It is the whole Party. How many dissenters were there in the election of Paul Ryan as Speaker? One, I think.”

I think your over simplifying one particular vote for one particular man. Do you support everything the man you elected does? No or you wouldn’t be here complaining about them.

In the same respect Paul Ryan almost certainly represents the compromise canadit among the republicans in the house.

If he fails to expose the Tuesday Group’s RINO traitors and instead allows them to take down the party with their own backstabbing tretury then i suspect a great many of his supporters will drop out. Indeed i suspect he has already lost a great many supporters for allowing it to go this far.


72 posted on 04/30/2017 8:20:36 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: arthurus

That may be the case, but I strongly suspect Trump would sign almost anything he thought better than nothing, including a straight repeal.

Trump is a deal maker he doesn’t seem to care about unimportant details. He understands the power of his position in the process and intends to play it only to the point it is beneficial.


73 posted on 04/30/2017 8:22:28 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

I am saying there was no dissent. They all knew what he is. They all approved enough to make him their honcho. It is not just one aberration in a long list of deeds. It is the basis for all those deeds and they are almost all oriented to not offending the Democrats whom Republicans consider to be the natural Rulers of the nation and to not jeopardizing their outside income and future employment.


74 posted on 04/30/2017 10:37:46 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Monorprise

Paul Ryan is NOT a compromise. He is purely the globalist Democrat and Chamber o Commerce candidate. There is no compromise in him. What compromise there is is of the same character as the compromises Trump can get working with other Democrats.


75 posted on 04/30/2017 10:39:53 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: Monorprise

agree


76 posted on 04/30/2017 12:54:19 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Wolfie

Judge Jeanine had Jerry Falwell on last night. Great interview. Sounds like Evangelicals might become activists in thwarting these RINO turds in reelection efforts for 2018. Sounds like a good plan.


78 posted on 04/30/2017 5:01:48 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("If we cannot control our tempers, what has grace done for us?" Charles Spurgeon)
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To: Zeneta

Those signing up for Obamacare get subsidies to pay premiums, 84% of them! So it must be repealed.


79 posted on 04/30/2017 6:41:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (Read my profile for how to really reduce healthcare costs & improve quality.)
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To: arthurus

I don’t think that is fair, Ryan had a good budget several years ago, and he did repeal Obamacare back in 2015. We just got 25 to 50 RINO’s trying to bring down the whole party.


80 posted on 05/02/2017 8:09:34 PM PDT by Monorprise
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