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Folks -- this is THE BEST analysis of how AGW is political and counteracts the so-called "Consensus" argument. I excerpted it, but I URGE everyone to read it in its entirety. It is VERY specific and VERY persuasive.

It also points out implicitly the difference between how TToE is science and AGW is not. EVEN IF you don't agree with TToE, you know that straw man will be thrown in your face.

This article shuts it down and explains real science vs. AGW.

Let's avoid the CREVO wars, OK? I won't respond to bait in that direction.

This thread is a Public Service.

1 posted on 04/22/2017 2:38:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003
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97 Articles Refuting The “97% Consensus”
2 posted on 04/22/2017 2:40:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Make up my mind, NBC,CBS,CNN,ABC. What are the "facts" today?)
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Real science is about challenging the consensus.
Had Einstein not challenged the consensus there would be no theory of relativity.


3 posted on 04/22/2017 2:41:38 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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Happy Birthday, Lenin....


5 posted on 04/22/2017 2:45:43 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Will do.


6 posted on 04/22/2017 2:48:00 PM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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One of Bill Clinton’s 1000 scientists in his consensus was a barber.


7 posted on 04/22/2017 2:49:51 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Science uses the scientific method.

Climate “science” does not use the scientific method.

Any questions?


8 posted on 04/22/2017 2:52:43 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Some people consider government to be a necessary evil, others their personal Ponzi scheme.)
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Not that there was anything political about it, but until the theory of relativity was developed around the constancy of the speed of light for all observers, the scientific consensus was that there was an “aether” through which electromagnetic waves passed. Opinion on this, from many great minds, was universal... and as it turned out, incorrect.


9 posted on 04/22/2017 3:00:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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The politics of dancing

The politics of ooo feeling good
The politics of moving
Is this message understood?


10 posted on 04/22/2017 3:05:02 PM PDT by Zeneta
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The left denies the scientific fact that unborn babies are living, human beings with their own unique DNA from conception.

The left denies the scientific fact that male and female sexes are biologically determined in humans by X and Y chromosomes.

The left is anti-science.


11 posted on 04/22/2017 3:05:22 PM PDT by unlearner (So much winning !!! It's Trumptastic!)
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Excellent analysis, applicable to many, many different issues across the spectrum of science and public policy.

Thanks for posting this. It’s a keeper.


12 posted on 04/22/2017 3:11:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet" - Abraham Lincoln)
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Sorry, but I only get info from men who wear a bow tie.


13 posted on 04/22/2017 3:28:54 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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Another way to spot a charlatan: He's the one who claims he can predict what's going to happen in a chaotic system. This applies to both climate scientists and stock market analysts.
14 posted on 04/22/2017 3:37:40 PM PDT by snarkpup ("The Democrat party's policies are like a warm blanket of asbestos." - Crystal Wright)
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As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

The first step in successfully disguising politics as science is to stop teaching the scientific method in schools imo.

After all, schools long ago stopped teaching the federal government’s constitutionally limited powers and look where that has got us.


16 posted on 04/22/2017 3:40:46 PM PDT by Amendment10
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In any scientific debate, I tend to initially gravitate to the minority side. That side of the issue is more challenging, and at any rate, apes tend to get most everything wrong initially.


17 posted on 04/22/2017 3:44:34 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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bfl


18 posted on 04/22/2017 3:45:57 PM PDT by Canedawg (from FUBO to MAGA!)
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Consensus is not part of the scientific method. Groupthink is only useful in politics to get people to conform to the masses. Science values skepticism which liberals basically hate.


19 posted on 04/22/2017 3:53:32 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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https://www.prageru.com/courses/environmental-science/climate-change-what-do-scientists-say


22 posted on 04/22/2017 3:56:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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just think where we would be of we had spent the gw money on real science.


23 posted on 04/22/2017 3:56:37 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Science is not a democracy or popularity contest where the idea with the most followers wins. In fact, History is full of examples where the “general consensus” was wrong, and shattered by lone rebels who didn’t agree.

In the late 1800s, the “general consensus” was that heavier-than-air craft could never fly, and was said to be a “physical impossibility” by the world’s greatest scientist, Lord Kelvin. Two bicycle-makers from Ohio made the world’s scientists look like fools.

Lots of other examples where dissenters broke the existing “consensus” and showed the truth. Science needs to always be questioned, if the idea is solid, it will withstand any rigid questioning.

Similarly, concepts that NEED to be protected from rigid questioning are probably suspect.


26 posted on 04/22/2017 4:04:30 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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Part of the problem is with us. WE WANT SIMPLE ANSWERS.

What happens when a politician says, “I don’t know.” (I know it is tough test since it can never happen)

What happens wen a scientist says, “I don’t know.”

I don’t know is a most proper answer for 99% of questions.


27 posted on 04/22/2017 4:04:34 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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