Posted on 04/12/2017 8:38:55 AM PDT by TigerClaws
"You should consider killing yourself."
That's what Thomas Klocke, a straight male student at the University of Texas at Arlington, allegedly told a gay male classmate after finding out about his sexuality during class on May 19, 2016. The classmate filed a Title IX complaint with the university.
The problem? Klocke denied ever having made such a comment. In his version of the story, the classmate came on to him during class, calling him beautiful. Klocke felt uncomfortable, told the classmate he was straight, and moved to a different seat after the classmate wouldn't stop looking at him.
The classmate might have been worried Klocke would accuse him of sexual harassment, Klocke later guessed, because he immediately filed his own sexual harassment complaint against Klocke. The accuser told university officials that Klocke had called him a "faggot" and threatened to kill him.
Klocke maintained that he did no such thing, but the university sided with the accuser.
Days after discovering that a finding of responsibility could prevent him from getting in to grad school, Klocke committed suicide.
That's according to Watchdog.org's Ashe Schow, who writes that "if every other egregious example of a male student denied due process after being accused of sexual misconduct gets ignoredthis one should not be." I suggest reading the full story here.
We will never know who was telling the truth and who was lying, though it's worth noting that in Klocke's version, he's the victim of something approaching harassmentat least according to the Education Department's broad definition of harassment under its revised Title IX guidance. And, as Title IX activists frequently remind the public, we must always believe the victims.
The investigation was biased against Klocke from the start, owing to the unfortunate fact that his accuser was on friendly terms with Associate Vice President of Student Affairs Heather Snow, who assisted the accuser in filing his complaint. Snow did not follow proper procedure, according to a lawsuit filed against the college by Klocke's family: she failed to contact the university's Title IX coordinator, and took charge of the investigation herself. Note the blatant unfairness:
Snow took control of the disciplinary procedure that involved a complaint she wrote herself. She enlisted the help of UTA's associate director of academic integrity, Daniel Moore, and had him tell Klocke he was immediately prohibited from attending the class where the incident was alleged to have occurred. Klocke was completing the course as part of a short, pre-summer semester in order to graduate that summer.
When Klocke was informed that an accusation had been lodged against him, he was not told the name of his accuser. Klocke was also informed that he could not contact anyone in the class, directly or indirectly, effectively denying him any ability to find witnesses to corroborate his story.
His accuser was able to remain in the class and find witnesses. He found only one, who didn't corroborate his account but did say he overheard someone say "you should leave." This could have been said by either Klocke or his accuser in either of their stories.
Klocke received no hearing, even though the university's Title IX policy explicitly mandates hearings for students in danger of being expelled. He was simply charged with making physical threats against a student and engaging in harassment, in violation of Title IX.
Snow conferred with Associate Director of Academic Integrity Daniel Moore, who conceded that there wasn't enough evidence against Klocke, according to the lawsuit. The administrators found him responsible for harassment anyway and placed him on disciplinary probation.
On June 2, 2016, Klocke killed himself. His family is now suing the university for, among other things, violating his Title IX rights.
How much longer must this madness continue? Students accused of sexual misconduct deserve competent legal representation, fair hearings, and the opportunity to confront their accusers. If it cannot be reasonably shown that the accused is likely guilty, he should not be punished.
The original purpose of Title IX was to ensure equality between the sexes in education. In its present day iteration, Title IX is little more than a tool for irate students to exact vengeance on people who offended them. The investigations have now begun to resemble the Salem witch trials in their contempt for principles of basic justice, capacity to destroy innocent lives, and deference to hysteria.
It's long past time for President Trump to appoint a new assistant secretary to head OCR and reverse the previous administration's Title IX guidance. For more on that subject, read Stuart Taylor Jr. in The Wall Street Journal.
“Even islamic terrorists know faggotry is wrong.”
Not the pitcher, only the catcher.
In a just world, these people would be charged in his death, much like those in anti-bullying laws are in some states.
...But practice it on young boys, and whatever seems to be handy anyway.
Unless one wants to become a scientist or engineer.
Might be truth in that.
Your reply makes no sense. I don’t think this young man should have been more protected. It think he should have been treated fairly. Once the school made a judgment against him, he could not get into graduate school. He thought his life was over. And he did nothing to deserve what happened to him. You have not been on a college campus where people think you might be homophobic. To many liberals, there is no greater sin.
The poor guy was probably harassed 24/7 and saw his life was being ruined over a lie. I knew one such person who committed suicide after being wrongly accused by the police who did nothing but constantly harass him and destroy his life and any future he had. After he blew his head off, the little lying slut admitted she’d lied. The police never apologized or made any statement and never went after the girl. Once a person gets into these messes, there’s no getting out.
From the article: “And, as Title IX activists frequently remind the public, we must always believe the victims.”
Once in the distant past I sat on a committee formulating sexual harassment policy; the written policy as originally presented continually referred to the accuser as “the victim”. I continually and vehemently stressed the point that the accuser could not be identified as a victim until the allegations in question were actually proven, or at least established at some reasonable level of certainty. And eventually the written policy used “accuser” in the final document that was adopted for the institution.
When dealing with the left, one must always be on guard when it comes to language - they will try to prejudice the system with their choice of words every chance they get, and way too often they succeed.
Crap, our granddaughter goes to UTA! I hate if for her that her university is like so many today where political correctness rules the day! These universities need to be reined in!!
Only people with a conscience have troubled sleep. These psychos lay awake at night fantasying about their victims. They never understand they are murderers. This freak will move on to new victims and it’ll never stop.
I don’t know if Heather Snow can be sued, but she deserves to lose everything she has and stands to earn. She sounds like an evil person.
If it happened in a class there must be other students who witnessed the event.
Are they silent out of fear?
UT Arlington is in the UT Austin system aka Berkeley of the South. Can’t get any more liberal.
As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.
at least according to the Education Department's broad definition of harassment under its revised Title IX guidance."
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponents Argument
Patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly delegated to the feds the specific powers to either establish the Education Department or make anything like Title IX imo.
More specifically, President Thomas Jefferson had officially clarified that the states would need to amend the Constitution in order for Congress to be able to make policy, regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate schools, something that the states have never done.
"On a few articles of more general and necessary use, the suppression in due season will doubtless be right, but the great mass of the articles on which impost is paid is foreign luxuries, purchased by those only who are rich enough to afford themselves the use of them. Their patriotism would certainly prefer its continuance and application to the great purposes of the public education, roads, rivers, canals, and such other objects of public improvement as it may be thought proper to add to the constitutional enumeration of federal powers [emphases added] Thomas Jefferson : Sixth Annual Message to Congress
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
Also note that the only sex-related right that the states have amended the Constitution to expressly protect deals only with voting rights, evidenced by the 19th Amendment. And since the issue referenced by this thread is clearly outside the scope of voting rights, the wicked witch has no power here imo.
Also, consider that the corrupt feds are arguably using constitutionally nonexistant federal powers to effectively define LGBT people as a protected / privileged class, the Founding States prohibiting the feds from doing such things when they drafted the Constitution.
"Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States [emphasis added]: And no person holding any office or profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state."
Drain the swamp! Drain the swamp!
Remember in November 18 !
Since Trump entered the 16 presidential race too late for patriots to make sure that there were state sovereignty-respecting candidates on the primary ballots, patriots need make sure that such candidates are on the 18 primary ballots so that they can be elected to support Trump in draining the unconstitutionally big federal government swamp.
Such a Congress will also be able to finish draining the swamp with respect to getting the remaining state sovereignty-ignoring, activist Supreme Court justices off of the bench.
In fact, if Justice Gorsuch is approved but turns out to be a liberal Trojan Horse then we will need 67 patriot senators to remove a House-impeached Gorsuch from office.
Noting that the primaries start in Iowa and New Hampshire in February 18, patriots need to challenge candidates for federal office in the following way.
While I Googled the primary information above concerning Iowa and New Hampshire, FReeper iowamark brought to my attention that the February primaries for these states apply only to presidential election years. And after doing some more scratching, since primary dates for most states for 2018 elections probably havent been uploaded at this time (March 14, 2017), FReepers will need to find out primary dates from sources and / or websites in their own states.
Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitutions Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal governments powers.
Patriots also need to find candidates that are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal governments limited powers listed below.
Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States. Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
State inspection laws, health laws, and laws for regulating the internal commerce of a State, and those which respect turnpike roads, ferries, &c. are not within the power granted to Congress [emphasis added]. Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]. United States v. Butler, 1936.
People who do what those two did rarely have any conscience. I hope both are punished somehow. But they are the PC people who have that ‘righteous indignation’ that so intimidates others. The gay guy should be prosecuted for filing false charges and the woman should be fired and fined to the amount that UTA will be forking over the the straight guy’s dad.
+1
The suicide rate among college students is very high. Think of being a snowflake and having a gay predator and the whole stinking system go against you. Pisses me off big time. I hope his parents win and this gives others who are sexually harassed the strength and fortitude to tell them to be careful or they will be charged with harassment. Imagine living alone in Sodom.
Wow. He killed himself over this? Maybe he really was gay after all...
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What an asinine statement!
He killed himself when he realized that his plans for his life and graduate school had been derailed and he had no recourse that he could see in our leftist world.
You've cut me to the quick. I guess I'll end it all...
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