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When cops encounter knives, shooting is not the only option (barf alert)
Chicag Tribune ^ | 6 apr 2017 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 04/06/2017 8:28:18 AM PDT by rellimpank

The man in the Camden, N.J., police video is practically begging to be shot. After using a knife to menace a cashier and a customer in a fast-food restaurant, he strides down a street slashing at the air as police repeatedly order him to drop his weapon. The man keeps walking, defiantly waving the knife.

Several cops form a ring around him and move along at a safe distance, block after block. This goes on for several tense minutes, as the viewer waits for shots to ring out. But they never do. Eventually, the man drops the knife and is collared.

It's a reasonably happy outcome. Had the 2015 incident occurred a year earlier, before the department adopted new tactics, "we would more than likely have deployed deadly force and moved on," Chief J. Scott Thomson told The New York Times. Instead, the offender survived, and no cop had to deal with the trauma of killing him.

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KEYWORDS: banglsit; cops; liberallogic; newjersey; police; rkba; stupidpeople
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To: rellimpank

From several different knife fighting teachers;

In most cases, its almost a certainty that both you and your adversary will get cut during the knife fight.

The five principles are as follows: Expect to get cut.

expect to leave the fight with a few slashes in your arms / hands.

You dont put on boxing gloves and not expect to get hit, you play with sharp objects you should expect to get cut.


21 posted on 04/06/2017 8:48:57 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: rellimpank
Firearms are used in battle to keep the enemy at distance. One should never let anyone with a knife, or sword, get close enough to employ it against them. If you do, you lose the advantage of having the firearm.

Jerks who make these rules or promote the use of non lethal force when confronted with a very lethal tool like a knife have never seen what happens when someone stabs or pierces someone with a knife or sword. Vests protect against most small arms, they do not protect against knives so in very close combat the knife is more dangerous than a firearm.

Generally these are the same ninnies who make statements like why did not he shoot the arm out of the assailants hand or why did he not disable him by a shot to the arm or some such.

Tasers are great for subduing an unarmed criminal. I would not wish to put anyone enforcing a law in the position of relying on it to sub do someone with a knife.

Camden is cited at the example here. If it was nuked, we would do the world a favor.

22 posted on 04/06/2017 8:49:51 AM PDT by Mouton (There is a new sheriff in town.)
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To: dp0622

My brother when he went mad hunted for a gun which happily had been hidden. Do I wish him dead on account of that? No.


23 posted on 04/06/2017 8:50:30 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: murrie

Yep.

If you have ever seen any of those videos put out by various muslims terrorists usually titled “How to stab a X”, those guys know how to use a knife.

They have really theorized and practiced a long time, and they are damn serious about killing a X.


24 posted on 04/06/2017 8:50:49 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: rellimpank

Yay! The bad guy lived. THE COPS ARE HEROES!

Boo! The bad guy died. THE COPS ARE VILLIANS!

What are these people, freakin 2 years old?


25 posted on 04/06/2017 8:51:40 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: rellimpank

So...we can expect Chapman to rush in and save the day now? Or just be another “whorespondent” coward mouthpiece hiding under his desk? Surely, he’ll be the point of the spear now since he knows all about it.


26 posted on 04/06/2017 8:54:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (WKU 2016 Boca Raton Bowl Champions)
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To: Jeff Chandler
That's a good idea.
I've also thought 2 cops with a 50' rope could bring down a knife wielder.
27 posted on 04/06/2017 8:54:45 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (It's gonna be bloody.)
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To: rellimpank
Youtube video: 1 man with knife vs several police in South America. He makes his move at around the 7:25 mark. You can see how quickly he stabs several cops.
28 posted on 04/06/2017 8:57:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: rellimpank

Maybe we should REQUIRE them to shoot. Give idiots a reason to not show a knife or other weapon rather than trying to make it safer to threaten police.


29 posted on 04/06/2017 8:57:26 AM PDT by LostPassword
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To: LostPassword; All

Why all this slavering hatred? Then we wonder why lefties get traction. Stupid!


30 posted on 04/06/2017 8:59:33 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rellimpank

Knife wielding maniac lives to slash another day!


31 posted on 04/06/2017 8:59:34 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: chris37
The most dangerous knife you can wield is the knife your opponent never even saw.

True. Knives are meant to be felt, not seen. And I would fear a knife fight, even if I also had one, much more than a gun fight. In a knife fight, no matter the outcome, your probably still getting cut.

32 posted on 04/06/2017 9:00:29 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Last four words are your speculation.


33 posted on 04/06/2017 9:01:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: murrie
When I was in high school I went for a week to the Missouri Highway Patrol Academy as part of a cadet patrol program sponsored by the American Legion.

In the self-defense/use of force training the instructor taught us how Troopers defend themselves against an attacker with a knife if they were unarmed. “And if the Trooper is armed and attacked by a guy with a knife; have any of you seen Raiders of the Lost Ark?” Also, "Never shoot to wound, center mass until the threat no longer exist."

34 posted on 04/06/2017 9:02:03 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the 0zarks)
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To: rellimpank

And if the POS suddenly runs toward a citizen and threatens him/her? Too late then for the cops to stop him. Bringing him down after all those obvious threats is the only option.


35 posted on 04/06/2017 9:02:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Islam mandates warfare against unbelievers and is absolutely incompatible with Western society.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yeah... Circular firing squad, anyone


36 posted on 04/06/2017 9:03:36 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: murrie

That scene was supposed to be a swordfight but Ford was sick. If you look at him in the shot he looks terrible. That scene was easier on him


37 posted on 04/06/2017 9:04:24 AM PDT by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suckle the breast of Capitalism.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Unless they literally dis armed him!

He would have to learn to hold a knife with his feet, and probably would.

38 posted on 04/06/2017 9:04:43 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: rellimpank

Gezezz how stupid is this author? Someone send this dunce a memo: “Not all incidents are the same, stupid”.


39 posted on 04/06/2017 9:09:38 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Toll

Yes.


40 posted on 04/06/2017 9:14:02 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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