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Getting dragged down into the unconstitutional socialized healthcare quagmire is insanity!

Posted on 03/30/2017 10:30:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

Bad move by Trump. Ryan and the globalist big government GOPe RINOs are the problem not the Freedom Caucus. Trump is supposed to be draining the swamp by now, not swimming in it.

Put the interest of American citizens first! Freedom not socialism and tyranny!!

Good grief! Dump Obamacare already! Should have been done on day one and we’d be way on down the road to draining the swamp by now!

We the people have been demanding a full repeal for seven long years and that's the position Trump took with his original health care goal at the beginning of the campaign. What he's doing now is madness and it's quickly destroying any chance of party unity and therefore destroying his chances of accomplishing the rest of hs agenda.

Someone screwed the pooch, BIGLY!

And someone needs to get it back on track, pronto!

This is NOT the decisive action of George S. Patton. It’s the confused inaction of George B. “Little Mac” McClellan!

Where is our U.S. Grant?

Get it together guys or we lose the war.


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1 posted on 03/30/2017 10:30:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Agreed, Jim. The fedgov has no business providing med care in general.

The market needs to be the mechanism to run health care economy, like most other issues. Some oversight of course, but not fedgov health care.


2 posted on 03/30/2017 10:33:47 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Jim Robinson
President Trump became "President" Trump because citizen voters rejected the watered down ideas of "establishment Republicans" like McConnell and Ryan and their failures to be effective checks on the power of the previous administration.

Those citizens will now and in the future hold President Trump responsible for any further watering down of their demands to repeal and replace "Obamacare"--a concept which was and is a Progressive Trojan Horse hiding the Progressive attempt to take over a significant portion of the U. S. economy and bypassing the Constitution's limits.

Now is the time to remind the President that, if he wants to create jobs, opportunities, and freedom for America--Make America Great Again--then he must open up that Progressive Trojan Horse, show it for what it is, explain it to the American people, and put the pressure on Ryan and McConnell so that the Legislative Branch is not allowed to overpower, appropriate, and dilute the wishes of "the People" who elected him to carry out their wishes!

President Reagan would have done no less!

3 posted on 03/30/2017 10:34:21 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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AMEN. Repeal first

Then they have at least 18 months to replace and show the voters something if they are so worried about mid-terms.


4 posted on 03/30/2017 10:35:34 AM PDT by PGR88
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Trump’s true colors are showing and they ain’t pretty.


5 posted on 03/30/2017 10:35:39 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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You mean President Trump isn’t a conservative? How shocking.


6 posted on 03/30/2017 10:35:59 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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Jim, the Freedom Caucus voted for Ryan to represent them. Ryan and McConnell need to let any bill come to a vote. Trump can only sign or not sign what he is presented.

If Trump is given the repeal, he will sign it.


7 posted on 03/30/2017 10:36:36 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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What he's doing now is madness...

And that is why a lot of sane people disagree with his actions.

8 posted on 03/30/2017 10:37:48 AM PDT by Canedawg (from FUBO to MAGA! Thank the Lord.)
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It has been said that only Trump can separate his voters from him.
He’s doing it with these tweets.
I worked my butt off to remove the weasel Eric Cantor, who would have supported Ryancare, and am thrilled to have a representative who actually represents me.
Anyone who threatens to primary Dave Brat becomes my political opponent.
His choice.

BTW, if we had not removed Eric Cantor in June 2014, the RINOs would have passed Rubio’s amnesty to clear that issue off the table for Yeb! as planned and there would be no President Trump.


9 posted on 03/30/2017 10:38:07 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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I love the title! And I so agree!

"Getting dragged down into the unconstitutional socialized healthcare quagmire is insanity!"

10 posted on 03/30/2017 10:38:34 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ConservativeMind

Conversely, if he is given Obamacare II, he will sign it.


11 posted on 03/30/2017 10:39:33 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Oklahoma; bigdaddy45
Trump is more conservative than the vast majority of Republicans in Congress. 1/4 of the Freedom Caucus is liberal and over 1/4 of them are NeverTrumpers.

The Freedom Caucus elected Paul Ryan to represent them. Now, think for a moment, if you were in the House, would you elect 0bama to represent you in negotiations?

12 posted on 03/30/2017 10:40:21 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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Agree. The train is headed off the tracks and the swamp is drain is plugged. In fairness, the old media empire and the Obamas still hold massive influence to stop Trump’s agenda.


13 posted on 03/30/2017 10:40:56 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
To be fair, Ryancare did give the Trump Administration a lot of room to rip things put or front-load savings.
14 posted on 03/30/2017 10:41:37 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Jim Robinson

Bad move by Trump.
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When Jim’s first sentence in his post is BAD MOVE BY TRUMP, you know we are in trouble. And it was a a BAD MOVE - a really BAD MOVE. Trump has had tremendous support on this forum and you can already see it starting to dribble away over his handling of the Freedom Caucus and the so called “Repeal” of Obamacare.

Time for Trump to right the ship. That is RIGHT the ship. And way past time to get back on track by really repealing Obamacare.


15 posted on 03/30/2017 10:41:56 AM PDT by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time.)
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It’s possible I’ve overlooked the evidence showing the FC members to be true swamp drainers. If it exists.


16 posted on 03/30/2017 10:44:53 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: reasonisfaith

Does Dave Brat want a full repeal? How about Mo Brooks? Look it up.


17 posted on 03/30/2017 10:46:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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Repeal, let market forces rule, allow insurance to operate across state lines. That’s about it.


18 posted on 03/30/2017 10:48:06 AM PDT by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Trump wants to deconstruct the administrative state.

On the other hand Trump wants federal control over healthcare.

The problem is that federal control over healthcare epitomizes the absolute worst in the administrative state.

So much could be written, and has been written, on how federal control over healthcare brings on an administrative state that is abusive, so out of control, so illegal, so on and on and on, that I won't do it here. But it is all out there.

Obamacare is simply a good example of an administrative state totally out of control. Obamacare administrative state says, you have to buy a product or you could go to jail.

I mean come on! And it makes no difference if the R's try to make it better. They wont, they cant. It wont happen. It will still be an administrative state totally out of control. "We're from the government and we're here to help." {9 of the most scary words from the government as said from Ronald Reagan.}

So what gives?

Destroy the administrative state - or not!



19 posted on 03/30/2017 10:48:36 AM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: ConservativeMind

Bullshit

Thirty or forty real Conservatives don’t have the votes to elect anyone to anything.


20 posted on 03/30/2017 10:48:44 AM PDT by Oklahoma
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