Posted on 03/24/2017 1:40:15 PM PDT by HarleyLady27
President Trump predicted Friday that pressure on Democrats will compel them to work with Republicans to pass a healthcare reform package after Obamacare collapses.
"When it explodes, they come to us and we make one beautiful deal," Trump told the Washington Post's Robert Costa in a phone interview shortly after House leadership pulled the American Health Care Act in the face of conservative opposition.
Trump said he believed Republicans came within "five to 12 votes" of passing the AHCA. They needed 216 votes to send the legislation to the Senate.
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Lesson for Trump:
Never Trust a Rhino.
Cool.
Don’t let Ryan write it.
He’s a disaster.
Trump appears to have dodged this mess, and come out the winner. Impressive.
That’s more like it. Good to hear.
Ok, the people didn’t vote on this RYANCARE disaster, so now we still have bamicare...when the American People get over the shock of this happening, you think any lib is going to get near an office in the government? Not on your life...
We just seen what happens when a ‘Never Trumper’ Ryan handled this mess and we are mad about it, you think we are going to forgive him, not ever, and it’s time to vote him out of his speakership, TODAY!!!
There are two critical narratives here--separate but related facets of the relevant reality:
Obamacare was a grotesque extension of the unconstitutional meddling in civilian health care initiated by LBJ, which had already demonstrably managed to triple the percentage of GDP that went to health care by the time of the Clintons effort to extend the Federal role in civilian health care. It was already clearly evident that something as immediate as the relation of patient and physician is inherently local, inherently personal; and hence completely unsuitable for bureaucratic meddling.
The over two thousand year history of patient/physician relationships, had demonstrated before either LBJ, Clinton or Obama, the safety net that ethically responsible physicians had already extended to those in need--that is in never refusing treatment to one who could not pay. Thus by any measure, practical, legal or socially altruistic, the advent of Obamacare was a massive step in a very wrong direction.
Thus common sense, law & honest concern for the poor American or an unhealthy American, cry out for the repeal of Obamacare. We have no argument there.
But the other reality, is the present makeup of Congress--a Republican majority, but not a Republican Conservative majority. Hence Donald Trump tried to get a first phase of moving in the right direction through Congress--and I suspect he will try again, after getting some other needed things done. The all or nothing approach to health care fails to accomplish the little that really could be accomplished with a little patience and determination.
There are two targets on which we realists need to focus:
One, turn the tide of increased meddling, and begin to reduce the bureaucratic intrusion. At the same time, carefully explaining the realities to the voting public, to build a stronger grass roots movement to increase the strength of those who understand reality in Congress. The one thing we dare not allow is the pendulum to swing back to more intrusive policy.
Let's all take a deep breath and go forward to the extent we can. Let us make certain that our bold, brave and very intelligent President, understands that we remain all in for an American future--and that includes our clear understanding that there is nothing "American" about Obamacare.
William Flax
There are two critical narratives here--separate but related facets of the relevant reality:
Obamacare was a grotesque extension of the unconstitutional meddling in civilian health care initiated by LBJ, which had already demonstrably managed to triple the percentage of GDP that went to health care by the time of the Clintons effort to extend the Federal role in civilian health care. It was already clearly evident that something as immediate as the relation of patient and physician is inherently local, inherently personal; and hence completely unsuitable for bureaucratic meddling.
The over two thousand year history of patient/physician relationships, had demonstrated before either LBJ, Clinton or Obama, the safety net that ethically responsible physicians had already extended to those in need--that is in never refusing treatment to one who could not pay. Thus by any measure, practical, legal or socially altruistic, the advent of Obamacare was a massive step in a very wrong direction.
Thus common sense, law & honest concern for the poor American or an unhealthy American, cry out for the repeal of Obamacare. We have no argument there.
But the other reality, is the present makeup of Congress--a Republican majority, but not a Republican Conservative majority. Hence Donald Trump tried to get a first phase of moving in the right direction through Congress--and I suspect he will try again, after getting some other needed things done. The all or nothing approach to health care fails to accomplish the little that really could be accomplished with a little patience and determination.
There are two targets on which we realists need to focus:
One, turn the tide of increased meddling, and begin to reduce the bureaucratic intrusion. At the same time, carefully explaining the realities to the voting public, to build a stronger grass roots movement to increase the strength of those who understand reality in Congress. The one thing we dare not allow is the pendulum to swing back to more intrusive policy.
Let's all take a deep breath and go forward to the extent we can. Let us make certain that our bold, brave and very intelligent President, understands that we remain all in for an American future--and that includes our clear understanding that there is nothing "American" about Obamacare.
William Flax
Of course it will happen. Savage is blasting away at his the western world is doome some guy wrote about it in 1924 rant. He is very good at seeing themes but he does not have the mind of a businessman. Beware of false prophets
Trump had to allow the Ryan deal to play out
Hannity is the only one with the humility to be optimistic. As imus says about him “how dumb is HE? He’s the one of the only ones who’ve been right about Trump”
Trumps deals, any successful deal, has stages
I cannot believe all those wringing their hands, and despondent that Ryancare didn’t pass! WTF!
At this point, the Dems still own Obamacare.
In the meantime, I’m gonna have to do my colonoscopy and endoscopy on my own as i can’t afford the 20 percent co pay and it looks like things aren’t going to be changing for a while.
I bought kits in the mail.
I’m also doing dental work out of my basement if anyone needs some work done.
Repeal obamacare. We were better off before.
Carry on.
Trump signals he'll work with whoever can come up with a winning formula? Of course. Why not? Unaffordable Zero-Care no longer is his (campaign promise) problem in the meantime. It's the Senate and House's problem. Thanks to the 'Rat Party.
Ryan is now on his own -- can't say Trump didn't back him either.
what will an exploding obamacare look like? do we know?
Couldn’t they just let it sunset, and when it runs out of money, be ready with a well-crafted replacement?
See, Trump is waiting for Obamacare to implode and then pick up the pieces.
“At this point, the Dems still own Obamacare.”
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Yep,and Trump specifically mentioned Pelosi and Schumer——I hope they’re ready for what’s coming.
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