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Utah lawmakers pass bill to lower DUI limit to 0.05 percent
AP ^ | March 9, 2017 | Staff

Posted on 03/12/2017 6:01:58 AM PDT by C19fan

Utah could soon have the strictest DUI threshold in the nation after state lawmakers on Wednesday night voted to lower the limit for a driver's blood-alcohol content to 0.05 percent, down from 0.08 percent. The measure heads to Utah's governor, who has said he supports the legislation.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: alcohol; dui
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To: C19fan

My son and I just returned from a ski trip to Utah, which we’ve done every year for six years. Even with the weak beer they sell there, it’s really easy to get to .05. I may have to start looking elsewhere for a place to ski. I


61 posted on 03/12/2017 7:28:43 AM PDT by KevinB (Barack Obama: The best example in history of the dangers of affirmative action!)
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To: servantboy777

...wait until it happens to you, then get back to me...


62 posted on 03/12/2017 7:29:20 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: HarleyLady27

Sorry for you loss. That’s an unimaginable tragedy. Your comment however serves to validate just how idiotic that new legislation is.
“my grandson who was DUI and driving on revocation was driving...”

Laws won’t prevent someone who has no regard for laws or penalties from doing the responsible thing. He was driving on a revoked license! You didn’t mention whether or not it was from a previous DUI but my point on this legislation was made from your statement.


63 posted on 03/12/2017 7:29:29 AM PDT by TermLimitsforAll (Term Limits and Walls, that's a start)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

“It’s all about the money...

The States and legal profession are making a fortune off the legal fees, fines & surcharges.”

And you can completely deprive them of it by not drinking and driving. What a concept!


64 posted on 03/12/2017 7:31:44 AM PDT by Dusty Road (")
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To: CaptainMorgantown

“The push for ever lower blood alcohol levels for DUI does little or nothing to make roads safer. If the desire is truly to lower the rate of alcohol-related accidents, it would be much more effective to focus on repeat offenders and cases of extremely high blood alcohol content (e.g., > 0.15),which are the causes of the vast majority of alcohol-related fatalities.”

Amen.

People have been propagandized into believing drinking and driving is a far more serious safety issue than it is.

You will never see a thorough cost/benefit analysis of enforcing the law which includes the effects on otherwise law-abiding people who were no danger to anybody.

The overwhelming number of people killed by drunk driving are the drunk drivers themselves. The next category are the passengers (also drunk) who got into the car with the drunk driver. A tiny fraction are other people, and it is not unheard of that they are inebriated pedestrians.

Like the opioid “epidemic,” domestic violence, animal abuse, and smoking, driving while intoxicated seizes on relatively rare and dramatic individual cases to permit the criminalization of average, law-abiding citizens, causing far more practical devastation to individual lives than the problem warrants.

Next time someone breathlessly informs you about the victims of drunk drivers, ask what percentage of those victims was the drunk driver.


65 posted on 03/12/2017 7:32:28 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: KevinB

Try Montana. Discovery Basin. Quaint, old Montana.


66 posted on 03/12/2017 7:32:37 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: C19fan
This is solely to introduce more white lower- and middle-class (mostly men) into The Process.

People get killed on the road because they are roads, with moving cars, and even, moving trucks.

67 posted on 03/12/2017 7:33:49 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Prosecute the win. Run up the score.)
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To: dp0622

Driving, with a license anyway, is a privilege, not a right.


68 posted on 03/12/2017 7:33:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: TermLimitsforAll

And this didn’t happen in Utah, it happened in Colorado...and he was driving on revocation because of a speeding ticket he hadn’t shown up in court for...

Doesn’t matter WHERE you drive, if you drink DON’T DRIVE...how hard is that concept to understand???


69 posted on 03/12/2017 7:33:59 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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To: C19fan

I bet this is a red herring. Sure the new law would lower the threshold to 0.05 (making any alcohol at all essentially illegal), but I bet the real purpose is to raise the fines and sanctions to squeeze more money out of ‘em. Nobody cares about drunk drivers anyway. (what’s the new limit for xanax?).


70 posted on 03/12/2017 7:34:13 AM PDT by lafroste (Look at my profile page. Thanks.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Have you ever witnessed the same thing done by a sober driver?

Solution: ban driving, period.


71 posted on 03/12/2017 7:34:13 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: C19fan
Having worked in a major hospital's ER for years *and* having had a niece die in a car accident caused by a drunk driver who was *well known to the police* I say bring it down to 0.00.
72 posted on 03/12/2017 7:34:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: mewzilla
FWIW, I’ve never understood why not imbibing before driving is such a hardship for some folks. Especially pro-lifers.

I also never understood why so many people are so eager to give up their freedoms in exchange for a little perceived safety. As Benjamin Franklin would say, those people deserve neither.

73 posted on 03/12/2017 7:35:44 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: dp0622

FWIW, I don’t get my yayas endangering myself or others when I’m behind the wheel. The 12 hour rule works for pilots. It does for me, too. Especially since folks on the roadway are far more likely to be involved in a crash.


74 posted on 03/12/2017 7:37:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: Dusty Road
If you chose to drug yourself while eating go ahead, just don’t drive afterwards.

Thanks for reminding me that I should add drugs to the list of things that slow a person's reaction time. (No Benadryl for YOU!)

Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy the freedom I've had for 52 years now (Drinking age was 18 when I got my Driver's License.) if it's okay with you; and even if it's not.

ML/NJ

75 posted on 03/12/2017 7:39:15 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: jonrick46
"This one is $85, but I saw one for $30."

That's pretty cheap, but does she do anything else besides sniffing your breath? And, what's your spouse say about it?

Oh, and where can I get her...uhm...one?

76 posted on 03/12/2017 7:39:39 AM PDT by moovova
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To: StAnDeliver

“This is solely to introduce more white lower- and middle-class (mostly men) into The Process.”

Exactly, this is payback and a long standing scheme by the left to criminalize as many Americans as possible.

The irony is that conservatives have been swayed by the dramatic commercials and splashy stories into believing it is all on the up and up.


77 posted on 03/12/2017 7:40:11 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: HarleyLady27

I’ve had a family member killed from a DUI driver. Ejected in fact and dead at 16. Am I going to punish the entire drinking population for that persons mistake? No.

I guess I’m abnormal, I have made mistakes and will continue to do so.

To those who think this is not just a revenue generating tool for Utah, you’re naïve. Why not just vote for Prohibition again, that’ll fix everything, lol.


78 posted on 03/12/2017 7:40:55 AM PDT by TermLimitsforAll (Term Limits and Walls, that's a start)
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To: dp0622

One last thing: I’m not a teetotaler. I use alcohol. I enjoy alcohol. Just not if I’m going to be driving.


79 posted on 03/12/2017 7:41:01 AM PDT by mewzilla (I'll vote for the first guy who promises to mail in his SOTU addresses.)
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To: RetiredArmy

“HAVE YOU, YOU PERSONALLY EVER LOST ANYONE TO A DRUNK DRIVER??? “

.05 isn’t drunk. I think they should test drivers for anti-depressants and anti-anxiety meds. If it saves just one life, it will be worth it.


80 posted on 03/12/2017 7:42:47 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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