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Note To Ben Carson Bashers: When Obama Called Slaves 'Immigrants,' You Showered Him With Praise
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 03/8/2017 | John Merline

Posted on 03/08/2017 8:40:27 AM PST by IBD editorial writer

In an unscripted talk to employees, newly minted Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson referred to slaves as immigrants, and the outrage was fast and furious.

Two sample tweets:

OK!! Ben Carson …. I can't! Immigrants? In the bottom of SLAVE SHIPS??!! MUTHAF(….)A PLEASE!!!#dickheadedtom — Samuel L. Jackson (@SamuelLJackson) March 6, 2017

This can't be real. Slaves were not & are not immigrants. 2017. — Chelsea Clinton (@ChelseaClinton) March 6, 2017

Whoopi Goldberg, the NAACP and a multitude of others expressed their outrage in similar terms.

Huffington Post's Jason Linkins said Carson's remark "makes one wonder how far the Trump administration will go to revise the history of the black experience in America."

Just read Carson's crazy statement for yourself and you can understand the anger.

"Life in America was not always easy," he said. "It wasn't always easy for new immigrants. Certainly it wasn't easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more."

Unbelievable! Slaves were "immigrants" who "found inspiration in all those who had come before them"?!?!

Oh, wait. That wasn't Ben Carson.

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KEYWORDS: aliens; bencarson; bho44; carson; immigration; obama; slaves; trumpcabinet; trumphud
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1 posted on 03/08/2017 8:40:27 AM PST by IBD editorial writer
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To: IBD editorial writer

Liberals are the biggest hypocrites on Earth.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 8:44:06 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: IBD editorial writer

Dr Benson only mistake was expressing regret or apologizing. As we all know - abundantly - that when Republicans do this that Democrats pounce for the kill. The problem is that the rules of the political game are decidedly unfair and weighted by the corrupt MSM. Therefore, you cannot play by their rules. This is the way Trump beat these pathetic losers.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 8:46:35 AM PST by Obadiah (Democrats continue their crusade against normal.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

Screw the DNC and Left - they are all soundbites and optics - no substance beyond the continual hate and segregation they promote.


4 posted on 03/08/2017 8:46:55 AM PST by Jumper
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To: IBD editorial writer

Another example of why leftists are so frequently calling other people hypocrites and why they are so seemingly outraged by it when they can find an example of it in conservatives.

It’s because everything they do is poisoned by psychological projection, they are suffering from mental disease after all, and true hypocrisy is the name of their only god. Everything they do is a form of hypocrisy.


5 posted on 03/08/2017 8:56:03 AM PST by KyCats
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To: Obadiah

I agree, never apologize to these hypocrites. Liberals have no sense of humor, and certainly metaphors, analogies and irony are way beyond their ability to understand.


6 posted on 03/08/2017 8:56:18 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Obadiah

Right.

Never, ever apologize to the left.

Never.
Ever.


7 posted on 03/08/2017 8:57:05 AM PST by KyCats
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To: IBD editorial writer
Not only does the current "Progressive" fake outcry about this Carson statement reveal a deep hypocrisy, considering there was no outcry when the recent President Obama made the same observation, but the "outcry" exemplifies Progressive attempts to discredit good and decent Americans of all races and creeds who dare to oppose the "Progressive" and regressive ideology at the bottom of their opposition to Trump.

Carson's great strength includes a deep understanding of the principles and ideas expressed in the Declaration of Independence and incorporated into the Constitution which structures our government.

He fits the descriptions included in the following comments:

"We, the People" must be equipped to distinguish and between the principles that would keep America free and prosperous and the false premises that will enslave her, as well as able to articulate them. Accommodating tyranny by failing to call it what it is is dangerous. We need a leader whose words are strong and courageous and based in the principles of our Declaration of Independence.

American citizens need to wake up to the counterfeit ideas and false "hopes" offered by politicians who use "promises," just as the rest of us use "currency."

They buy votes with "promises" in order to gain power to themselves and their ilk. Then, when "hopes" are dashed, "the people" they have promised to help (the naive, the poor, the ignorant--even the "educated" who are ignorant of liberty vs. tyranny) find themselves enslaved, working for those who have purchased their power in the most despicable manner--by offering "hope and change." Thus it has ever been.

The people who founded America were not so "dumbed down." Hear two of them:

"It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens and one of the noblest characteristics of the Revolution. The freemen of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle [usurpation of power] and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle. We revere this lesson too much . . . to forget it." - James Madison

" . . . nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers, and destroyers press upon them so fast, that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon the American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour. The revenue creates pensioners, and the penshioners urge for more revenue. The people grow less steady, spirited, and virtuous, the seekers more numerous and more corrupt, and every day increases the circles of their dependents and expectants, until virtue, integrity, public spirit, simplicity, and frugality, become the objects of ridicule and scorn, and vanity, lusury, foppery, selfishness, meanness and downright venality swallow up the whole society." - John Adams

Further, it was not just the founding leaders who were well-informed about their constitution and approaching threats to its protections. By the Year 1830, when the French jurist Tocqueville traveled America, he wrote admiringly of the citizenry, observing that even the backwoodsman was far more well-read and informed than those in other parts of the world, and that they understood their Constitution, and had with them a Bible and a newspaper. Sadly, beginning in the mid-20th Century, our "government" schools removed the ideas of liberty from the nation's textbooks, largely under the guise of a counterfeit idea of "separation of church and state," and the citizenry is uninformed as to the difference between tyranny and liberty.

Today, with all modern means of communication, Americans possess little understanding of threats to their liberty and, thus, risk losing it to charlatans whose only goal is power.

Although Ben Carson's academic and work background were in the medical field, he is a man for all seasons in the ongoing human struggle for liberty, because he has cared enough about it to study its foundations, as well as the opposing ideas of tyranny. His contribution to a new administration may be profound.
8 posted on 03/08/2017 9:06:24 AM PST by loveliberty2
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"... to revise the history of the black experience in America.

Revise the History of the Negro in America???? Most of these people believe the rewritten and rewritten history is the real history....how explosive the true history would be to these childish, uneducated people IF they want to know the truth about American slavery. The America Negro does love to write about, complain about, make their lives about unfounded misery, suffering that were only a small part of their history as it was with Scots and other indentured people brought to the nascent nation hundreds of years ago....These descendants have allowed themselves to be kept on the 'Plantation Charlatans' who use their ignorance to enrich themselves rather than the American Negro pull out of the sink hole they are in and help themselves, especially their children.

As long as they continue to segregate themselves with the disingenuous handle of "African American" when more than one type of blood flows through their veins, they will remain shackled to that myth.

9 posted on 03/08/2017 9:18:12 AM PST by yoe
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To: Parley Baer

article:

“Life in America was not always easy,” he said. “It wasn’t always easy for new immigrants. Certainly it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more.”

Unbelievable! Slaves were “immigrants” who “found inspiration in all those who had come before them”?!?!

Oh, wait. That wasn’t Ben Carson.

Those remarks were made by another prominent African American — Barack Obama — who happened to be president at the time.

Surely Obama’s inept comparison raised hackles, too, right?

Well, not exactly. In fact, Obama’s remarks — which were contained in a written speech he read from a teleprompter at a naturalization ceremony on Dec. 15, 2015 — received widespread and fulsome praise.

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10 posted on 03/08/2017 10:01:39 AM PST by Freemeorkillme
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To: IBD editorial writer

It was liberals expressing their hatred of a conservative man... Most of ‘em don’t give a damn about the term ‘immigrant’ they just care who uses the term. And if they can use that person to work up their bottomless hatred.

Liberals are evil.


11 posted on 03/08/2017 10:15:12 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama's Deep State is attempting to overturn results of a Presidential Election - it's treason.)
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To: IBD editorial writer

BUMP!


12 posted on 03/08/2017 10:17:18 AM PST by golux
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To: IBD editorial writer

Never apologize to a liberal with fake outrage. He better put on the Trump mantle. He should have told them to ‘f’ off but he’s the consummate gentleman.


13 posted on 03/08/2017 10:40:59 AM PST by Lent
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To: IBD editorial writer

Dumbass@samuelLJackson @LiberalDickheadedSambo


14 posted on 03/08/2017 10:48:59 AM PST by VeniVidiVici
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To: IBD editorial writer

OBAMA SAID THE EXACT SAME THING:

OBAMA: “And perhaps, like some of you, these new arrivals might have had some moments of doubt, wondering if they had made a mistake in leaving everything and everyone they ever knew behind. So life in America was not always easy. It wasn’t always easy for new immigrants. Certainly, it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more.”

Even JAKE TAPPER at Very Fake News CNN says this is fake outrage against Carson.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 11:14:01 AM PST by LeonardFMason (426)
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To: Obadiah

I wish he hadn’t apologized.


16 posted on 03/08/2017 11:14:36 AM PST by nikos1121 (We are about to see The Golden Age of Pericles in the new Trump Administration.)
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To: nikos1121

Why is our side so quick to assume the position at the first sign of enemy fire?


17 posted on 03/08/2017 11:30:32 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Obadiah

Once the left wing nuts
realize this was stated
before, by Obama, they
will turn around and claim
this is plagerism on Dr.
Carson’s part.


18 posted on 03/08/2017 11:36:28 AM PST by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: IBD editorial writer

There may be some who, like me, at first were confused by this IBD article and the comments.

The IBD article makes its point quite effectively and dramatically by printing the Obama quote.

It errs, in my opinion, in not also providing the Carson quote, however, so the reader is left unable to judge what *actual* statement triggered the liberal outrage under discussion. That seems important.

The criticism “Obama said the same thing” is valid only if understood to mean Obama said “essentially” the same thing, not the same words verbatim.

Both did use the same word, “immigrant,” to describe slaves.

What could be implied in the IBD article and the comment that “Obama said the same thing” was that Carson literally plagiarized Obama’s exact words without attribution. This, of course, did not happen.

Carson said:

“There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/322545-carson-refers-to-slaves-as-immigrants-in-talk-to-hud-employees

Obama said:

“So life in America was not always easy. It wasn’t always easy for new immigrants. Certainly, it wasn’t easy for those of African heritage who had not come here voluntarily and yet in their own way were immigrants themselves. There was discrimination and hardship and poverty. But, like you, they no doubt found inspiration in all those who had come before them. And they were able to muster faith that, here in America, they might build a better life and give their children something more. “

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=111241

The key point remains, both Obama and Carson used the identical term for slaves, and liberals objected (and with hypocritical vehemence) when Carson did.

I just wanted to save others from hunting around to see what each person actually said.


19 posted on 03/08/2017 11:57:48 AM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: IBD editorial writer
"The beauty of being a liberal is that history always begins this morning."
-Ann Coulter

-PJ

20 posted on 03/08/2017 12:03:03 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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