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Does Times Reporting Support Donald Trump’s Wiretap Claim? (NY Times Implosion Underway)
The New York Times ^ | MARCH 8, 2017 | Liz Spayd THE PUBLIC EDITOR

Posted on 03/08/2017 7:32:28 AM PST by Helicondelta

Several readers have written in this week saying they’re having a hard time squaring The Times’s own past reports of wiretapping with the paper’s assertions that there is no firm evidence that any warrants for wiretaps have been issued. Readers also expressed confusion with The Times’s assertion that it would be illegal for a White House to receive information about such investigations, when its own wiretapping story in January said the Trump White House was given some information from intercepted communications.

“For months now the NY Times and many other mainstream news sources has been running stories based on anonymous leaks saying that a massive investigation was going on into Trump and company’s Russian dealings based on wiretaps and intel intercepts,” wrote John Penley of Asheville, N.C. “Now Obama officials are saying this all never happened so my question is this: Why have the NY Times and others been saying it has for months now basing their stories on anonymous leaks?”

I reached out to editors in the Washington bureau to seek their help in clarifying the difference between Clapper’s — and The Times’s — assertions that no warrants had been issued, and the reference to wiretapping in the January story.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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1 posted on 03/08/2017 7:32:28 AM PST by Helicondelta
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To: Helicondelta

Brand value of the NY Times seems to be slipping.


2 posted on 03/08/2017 7:34:59 AM PST by ptsal
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To: Helicondelta

They say Obama didn’t order it....so who the hell did that would benefit by it? Lynch worked for Obama and only an idiot would believe that she didn’t follow his orders. You can bet if it was a republican president this story would change drastically! I absolutely detest liberals and like to punch them all in the face...including some cousins of mine.


3 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:11 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Helicondelta

Here the NYT is guilty of attempted plausable deniability. Nice Try, but FAIL.


4 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:45 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: ptsal

It’s kinda funny when you think about it. They painted themselves into a corner.


5 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:53 AM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: ptsal

How does one’s value “slip” from zero?


6 posted on 03/08/2017 7:38:54 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: Helicondelta

Ha!

And this excerpt almost incoherent in its writing.

Implosion indeed.


7 posted on 03/08/2017 7:39:21 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Helicondelta
And immediately below this excuse-for-a-NYTimes-Propaganda-Campaign, is the following advertisement:

The New York Times
Truth. It’s hard to find.
But easier with 1000+ journalists looking. Subscribe to The Times.

Should be:

The New York Times
Truth. It’s impossible to find with 1000+ journalists looking for ways to hide it. Unsubscribe to The Times.

8 posted on 03/08/2017 7:40:09 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Helicondelta

Yes, they are going to explain the “difference” between “Obama” and “Obama Administration”, and between “wiretap” and “electronic surveillance”.

Also they clearly demonstrate the difference between “lying liberal rag” and “desperately spinning two faced lying leftist newspaper run by Clinton and Obama operatives”.


9 posted on 03/08/2017 7:40:52 AM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Obama is parsing... he might not have ordered it, but wink-wink, he knew about it.
10 posted on 03/08/2017 7:40:56 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Common Sense 101

The existance of negative numbers has long been known.


11 posted on 03/08/2017 7:41:10 AM PST by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It's too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)
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To: Helicondelta

Retreating to the fact that Obama did not personally physically go into the computer networks and place a tap on Trump’s phone lines is a new low even for the New York Times. Wow.


12 posted on 03/08/2017 7:41:12 AM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: ptsal

So while attempting to defend their leaks and anon. Sources they admit that the intel was from overseas taps.

BY LAW information gathered against U.S. Citizens that show no involvement in National Security threats is supposed to be destroyed.

Instead the NY Slimes is fed the story and they run it on the Front Page....See Jan. 20th, 2017.


13 posted on 03/08/2017 7:41:31 AM PST by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Common Sense 101
How does one’s value “slip” from zero?

Exactly. Like "falling" from the gutter.

14 posted on 03/08/2017 7:41:40 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: Helicondelta

Keep drinking heavily, NY Times staff. You’re doing great. Don’t forget to recycle the glass vodka bottles.


15 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:50 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: Helicondelta

NYT writers and editors spew out their splurge each day with one intent only - to fit the party line narrative of the day.

They are completely incapable of assessing the impact of the trash they write days and weeks down the road. It is because they live in the short term and the 24 hour news cycle - not even directing the flow of it, but responding to it via the orders they get from the higher up ghouls like Obama, Hillary and the DNC.


16 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:52 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Helicondelta

There WAS wiretapping/bugging.
There WAS NO FISA warrant.

Draw your own conclusions.......................


17 posted on 03/08/2017 7:42:53 AM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: Helicondelta

All of the people that could have ordered it answered to Obama. Strategically, Trump should leave Obama out of it but have Sessions absolutely throw the book at whoever they can pin this on. Get them a 25 year sentence UNLESS they are willing to flip on Obama. Then it’s liberal vs liberal. Media loses.


18 posted on 03/08/2017 7:43:17 AM PST by comonbaby
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To: Helicondelta

Trumps called shot.

The FAILING New York Times.


19 posted on 03/08/2017 7:43:20 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

This nonsense goes back more than 800 years. Henry II didn’t order the Code Red on Thomas a Beckett but he was still responsible for his death.


20 posted on 03/08/2017 7:43:55 AM PST by organicchemist (Without the second amendment, the first amendment is just talk)
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