Posted on 03/04/2017 5:44:17 PM PST by AndyJackson
The President today made some very serious allegations, and the informed citizens that a republic requires deserve more information. If there were wiretaps of then-candidate Trump's organization or campaign, then it was either with FISA court authorization or without such authorization. If without, the President [Sasse is talking about Trump here, not his snideness Obama] should explain what sort of wiretap it was and how the knows this. It is possible that he was illegally tapped. On the other hand, if it was with a legal FISA Court order, then an application for surveillance exists that the Court found credible. The President should ask that this full application regarding surveillance of foreign operatives or operations be made available, ideally to the full public, and at a bare minimum to the U.S. Senate.
We are in the midst of a civilization-warping crisis of public trust, and the President's allegations today demand the thorough and dispassionate attention of serious patriots. A quest for the full truth, rather than knee-jerk partisanship, must be our guide if we are going to rebuild civic trust and health.
I think we’ll learn more right now than all day.
Keep electing ? He was only first elected in Nov. 2014, his first office. He’s not up until 2020.
Actually, though I really dislike him, I’m not sure sassy’s statement is wrong here. Trump made a serious allegation, and we need more than riddle-like tweets that leave everybody guessing and trying to decipher. This is serious business that requires a serious approach and thorough explanations, not 40-character tweets
When trump follows up w a Schwarzenegger tweet, he’s undermining the seriousness of the tapping allegation
Investigate.
Ping pong pizza, cheesy pizza and the map, and how Hillary and Obama held fun raisers there. Never forget!
Salutes to Aloha Ronnie, BTW.
Yes Andy.
It's a swindle. He tries to sound so reasonably sophisticated, clear and intellectual while trapping his meagre brain cell in a false dichotomy. It isn't that he is wrong. He has crafted a statement that can't be right.
You cannot start from a false premise and then pull a valid conclusion out of the hat. Even if it is a live rabbit he is still a fraud.
He is a Harvard graduate. Either he got a gentleman's C like GWB or he actually knows what he is doing here. But the conclusion that he is a jack ass is independent of the cause of his jackassery.
And yes, as this plays out Trump has to be right that his phones were tapped. But Trump knows this better than any of us, and this is not something where you bluff. There is no upside and the downside is the instant hell the left will deliver. But that isn’t the point here, and that wasn’t Sasse’s point either. He didn’t have any valuable perspective to offer on this other than to stand up and show that he is still a #Nevertrump jerk.
Thanks. He isn’t mine and so I don’t really pay much attention to that.
So FISA courts can do no wrong, it’s all on those who file for the warrants?
I guess I’m very frustrated with Trump. I want to hear what going on, in a real, serious presentation — not on twitter, which is a place for teenagers and movie stars to be snarky and vacuous. If we have a constitutional violation by Obama that rivals watergate, Trump should talk about it a forum that reflects the seriousness of the outrage and the crisis. A a grown-up form, with a grown-up presentation. The American people aren’t a bunch of toddlers, we should be addressed like adults, especially when high crimes and misdemeanors may have been committed by Obama. For Trump to use toddlerTwitterspeak only helps Obama because it makes the whole thing seem frivolous not serious.
I understand why he is using twitter. That gets directly to the people without the hyenas chiming in. He will eventually do what you say, but not until it is all in place and when he has control.
Sasse is still an ass.
Not if they lied to the court. How else would they get cause to tap Trump when he was never in contact with Russia and the whole thing was made up?
This exiguous Zauberbiest needs to find himself in a boscage of Jubokko trees with an angry Kinoshimobe.
We only elected this pompous jackass once so far - and he came in with all of the correct TEA Party talking points. We’ll know better next time.
IOWs the FISA judges themselves are beyond reproach. They are perfect and infallible human beings.
I think that is about the most amazing sentence I have ever read in my life! LOL!
LOL! It’s crazy words from last night’s episode of Grimm. :)
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