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The Time Has Come for 51
American Thinker ^ | February 11, 2017 | John Steinreich

Posted on 02/11/2017 4:50:43 AM PST by Kaslin

After nearly three decades in L.A. County, Nestlé will soon move its headquarters from California to Virginia. This food services giant with an estimated $235 billion in assets worldwide will by the end of 2018 remove 1,200 jobs from a state that relies heavily on income taxes to fund its massive public sector.

Nestlé's exodus follows other big employers, including Toyota, Campbell's Soup, Dunn-Edwards Paints, and eBay – which took with them tens of thousands of jobs – and mirrors the flight of mom-and-pop operations, entrepreneurs, families, and individuals who have ditched the once Golden State for places where the weather is less clement but the business and tax climate is welcoming. With Republicans, conservatives, and Reagan Democrats hightailing it out of high-priced California, the remaining statist majority has a voice that is progressively increasing in volume, and with it, the call for a "Calexit" secession from the Union grows louder. With some cynicism and a bit of righteous indignation, many Americans long to look westward to San Francisco, L.A., and Sacramento and wave goodbye and good riddance.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: california; economy; flee; nestle; redstatesvbluestates; taxandspend; taxes
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To: Gumdrop

Those loony tunes will become exotic foreign movies.


61 posted on 02/11/2017 7:01:39 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Kaslin

We in Western New York want to be rid of NYC too.

Let’s make it 52.


62 posted on 02/11/2017 7:02:00 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: RedStateRocker

Agree. But that does not explain why the abnormal ones wield so much political power.


63 posted on 02/11/2017 7:03:11 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Kaslin

“California today is effectively a socialist democracy, with lopsided representation. This defies the republican tradition of the United States.”

After reading the article again it occurred to me that CONGRESS has Failed Miserably and are duty bound to enforce the US Constitution in California.

“Article 4, section 4

The United States shall guarantee to every State in
this Union a Republican Form of
Government, ...”

“California’s rural areas enjoyed healthy representation in the legislature based on Proposition 28, which provided for a government model similar to the federal government’s construction.”

California DOES NOT HAVE a Republican form of Government and CONGRESS is REQUIRED to Fix it. Simply pass Legislation reinstating Prop 28 for California. Restrict the Judiciary from getting involved by legislation as provide for in

Article 3, section 2

“...in all the
other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress
shall make. “

CONGRESS CAN FIX IT by simply following the US Constitution and in so doing destroy the stranglehold the marxist demonrats have on this State.

I believe the President could also do it by Executive Order as part of his duty to ENFORCE THE US CONSTITUTION!!, even if he needs to declare Martial Law in the State to “Guarantee a Republican form of Government” and do it by Force. The President and Congress are REQUIRED BY THE CONSTITUTION TO DO JUST THAT!!!


64 posted on 02/11/2017 7:04:59 AM PST by eyeamok (destruction of government records.)
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To: RedStateRocker

My Father in law moved to CA in the 1970s. He was a liberal then. He is conservative now—he hates how CA has changed, though the policies he advocated for decades are to blame.


65 posted on 02/11/2017 7:05:29 AM PST by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: Degaston

my grandfather was a confederate soldier i would like to tell you where to put the pole


66 posted on 02/11/2017 7:17:33 AM PST by old gringo (a wise monkey never monkeys with another monkeys monkey.)
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To: central_va

Vandenberg is where it is because it can be used to launch into polar orbits and to the Western Test Range without the rockets passing over land.


67 posted on 02/11/2017 7:21:47 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: ResponseAbility
"I know of no uses for hermetically sealed silicon. All industrial uses for pure silicon allow surface silicon dioxide, in fact count on it."

True, but the hermetically sealed enclosures are there to be sure that that same SiO2 layer remains the same thickness and continues to function according to design. An unprotected silicon surface, or one with an exposed SiO2 surface WILL oxidize, and the characteristics of the chip will change, or fail completely. The process may be fast or very slow (over decades of time), but it DOES happen.

68 posted on 02/11/2017 7:22:55 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Carry me back

Thank you for the “welcome” of your fellow conservatives here in California. May I inform you that those of us here are some of the most successful, educated and hard working people in the nation. We don’t survive here because its easy in fact its brutal.. we are very industrious and many a state in the nation would benefit from our contributions to new founded communities.

Luckily for you as a third generation Californian I will fight and die for my home before I surrender it. Chances are I won’t make it out so you won’t have to worry.


69 posted on 02/11/2017 7:28:16 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: bert

How many old computers are sitting in your closet?

About three to five years, then the silicon is useless junk.


70 posted on 02/11/2017 7:41:03 AM PST by ptsal
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To: central_va

“We should be pushing for this to happen. Talk of war is stupid and silly.”

War would be inevitable if California leaves. First, there’s no way to separate California from U.S. interests and properties. The U.S. has military bases there, equipment, soldiers, etc. We also have national parks, federal property, national highways, waterways, federally funded projects, etc. Who gets all those? What are we going to be paid for it all when the cost is literally incalculable?

And then there are the really serious issues - a civil war in California between those who want to secede and those who don’t. All of inland California will vote to stay. They might be outvoted, but in an age of secession who is going to have the moral authority to convince them not to secede from a seceding state? It will be just like the creation of West Virginia when those counties refused to secede from the Union while Virginia did. Only this time there will be millions of illegals involved, widespread racist violence, and floods of refugees flooding into U.S. territory. Of course we red-blooded Americans will respond and defend our fellow citizens. And what about Mexico? Do you think they’ll do absolutely nothing in all of this? What about the Chinese? They would be the biggest winners not Mexico. Do you think they’ll do nothing at all?

If California secedes, war is INEVITABLE. It is not stupid and silly to talk about what is INEVITABLE. It happened in 1861. It will happen again if there is another secession.


71 posted on 02/11/2017 7:48:19 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
Gee, the USSR manged to separate without a shot being fired.

So the USA cant do it? Really? Do you actually believe that? If so then you are plain ignorant. This actually much simpler with one state gaining its autonomy and the USA remaining a huge country of 290 million in 49 states.

72 posted on 02/11/2017 7:53:41 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Looks like the Freeper morons are out in force this morning.


73 posted on 02/11/2017 7:58:59 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Kaslin

Another sign of the coming American Civil War...part Deux!


74 posted on 02/11/2017 7:59:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: vette6387

Well - lots of weird celestial stuff going on last night.


75 posted on 02/11/2017 8:02:58 AM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: central_va

“Gee, the USSR manged to separate without a shot being fired.”

You’re clueless. There was some serious fighting in the breakup of the Soviet Union in addition to the pre-collapse violence in Lithuania and Azerbaijan. Georgia fought internal wars with Abkhazia and South Ossetia, which were also connected to the 2008 war with Russia. Armenia and Azerbaijan went to war with each other even before the official collapse of the USSR, and that conflict could blow up again to this day. Tajikistan fought a severe civil war.
And of course Russia fought two wars against Chechnya.

So, here you are repeatedly posting crap comparisons to the USSR when you clearly don’t know a damn thing about it.

“So the USA cant do it?”

No, it can’t.

“Really?”

Yes.

“Do you actually believe that?”

Yes.

“If so then you are plain ignorant.”

No, I’m just better informed than you are. Remember, you’re the dazzling intellect who thought there was no violence in the break up of the USSR. And yet there was - and I know there was. I also know - and you’re ignoring - what happened the last time there was a secession from the U.S. How did that turn out, genius? Oh, yeah, the CIVIL WAR.

“This actually much simpler with one state gaining its autonomy and the USA remaining a huge country of 290 million in 49 states.”

Dear God, man, think! Millions of refugees, internecine warfare in the eastern counties of California, millions more Mexicans flooding in to California to take advantage, financial collapse, stock market plunge, on and on and on. You’re refusing to consider any of that and are ignoring the fact that all of it is guaranteed. There’s ZERO chance it won’t happen. ZERO. And the reasons why are simple: 1) Some Californians won’t want to leave the U.S. That means more secessions and guaranteed warfare. 2) Inevitable disputes over federal rights and properties. 3) the creation of entirely new border states that will experience all the same problems as the current border states leading to an endless struggle of illegal immigration becoming secession movements. 4) Foreign players. 5) Natural resistance on the part of Americans who are not retarded.


76 posted on 02/11/2017 8:19:00 AM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Fiji Hill

I lived in California back in those days, and I would not call George Deukmejian a conservative.

I remember when he signed a bill banning semi-automatic rifles in California. Deukmejian signed the bill with then LAPD police chief Daryl Gates in attendance, along with then L.A. County Sheriff Sherman Block, an anti-Second Amendment sheriff.


77 posted on 02/11/2017 8:20:43 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Our 8 Year Nightmare Has Ended!)
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To: Kaslin

Only a liberal can walk into paradise and turn it into a living hell!!!


78 posted on 02/11/2017 8:21:03 AM PST by ontap
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To: vladimir998

The skirmishes noted most historians regard the break up of the Soviet Union as a non violent miracle.


79 posted on 02/11/2017 8:24:03 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rbg81

> I’ve been reading for decades that CA is on the verge of economic collapse. Yet they are the 6th largest economy in the world by GDP. So something must be amiss in these predictions. <

Yeah, I’m scratching my head on that one too. I’ve also read that CA is one of the largest “giver” states, in that it sends more money to DC (in taxes) than it receives from DC.

Maybe CA is just moving by inertia these days. Maybe we’re missing something.


80 posted on 02/11/2017 9:04:35 AM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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