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Hey Guys, Put a Ring on It
National Review ^ | February 9, 2017 | W. Bradford Wilcox & Nicholas H. Wolfinger

Posted on 02/09/2017 5:27:39 AM PST by C19fan

Marriage is not worth it. It’s not worth the financial sacrifices, the lost sexual opportunities, and the lack of freedom. All in all, it’s a ball and chain — of little benefit to any man interested in pursuing happiness and well-being. This is the view that we’ve encountered from many young men of late.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: adulthood; genderwars; marriage; men
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To: C19fan

I will never get married again.

Nope.


21 posted on 02/09/2017 5:55:36 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: C19fan

For what it is worth, I still discriminate based on people having two parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents, 16 great great grandparents, etc., and knowing who they were. It correlates well with good genes and culture. But it is getting hard to find...


22 posted on 02/09/2017 5:56:39 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: karatemom

So very true. It’s been 11 months since my bride of 35 years lost her battle with cancer. We were married at 25; bought our first house while engaged; both had MBAs.

Now our only son is almost 32 and is no rush at all to get married. Most of his college friends are still single. I’m told it’s a different world today.

But when you find that one person meant for you, no matter whether it be in high school or when you’re later in life, you just KNOW it. I still remember the first time I saw my future wife and exactly what she was wearing. She always told me she thought that was creepy, but I think secretly she loved that I did.

Hope your “bad news” wasn’t BAD NEWS, and my thoughts and prayers are with you.


23 posted on 02/09/2017 5:56:40 AM PST by Breyean
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To: C19fan

Marriage requires:

1. commitment
2. honesty
3. communication
4. forgiveness
5. humility
6. perseverance
7. self sacrifice
8. unity of spirit

Most of the traits set forth above are no longer instilled into our children by society

They believe that it will be like the romance scenes portrayed by Hollywood. Look at the stupid movie stars they go through spouses like I go through underwear.


24 posted on 02/09/2017 5:56:55 AM PST by JayElBee
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To: BJ1

“What do today’s women actually bring to the table that is worth the risk of a divorce? “

Not a damn thing.

That is why 100% of the shaming is on the guys to ignore the failure of the people that support this crap to raise quality females, or to prevent the state from rigging so many laws that refuse a husband to a wage slave.

Not once do I ever see these people rant at women. NOT ONCE!

Because they are p-whipped cowards.

Guys aren’t stupid


25 posted on 02/09/2017 6:00:52 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: C19fan

Article is complete bunk:

“About 42 percent of first marriages end in divorce. Most divorces are initiated by women. This means that many men who marry will end up unwillingly divorced. These men obviously don’t realize much of a return on their investments in married life.”

If you end up divorced, then it’s a complete disaster for men:

“Too many men have been driven beyond bitterness, to violence, murder and suicide XE “suicide” by the unfairness of divorce to even begin to list them all. A few of their stories are related below:
Last Will and Testament of A.T. Renouf of Canada (verbatim):
“Last Friday my bank account was garnished. I was left with a total of $00.43 in the bank. At this time I have rent and bills to pay which would come to somewhere approaching $1,500 to $1,800. Since my last pay was direct deposited on Friday I now have no way of supporting myself. I have no money for food or for gas for my car to enable me to work...
“I have tried talking to the Family Support people... Their answer was: ‘we have a court order.’ I have tried talking to the welfare people in Markham, since I earned over $520 in the last month I am not eligible for assistance.
“I have had no contact with my daughter in approx. 4 years. I do not even know if she is alive and well... I have no family and no friends, very little food, no viable job and very poor future prospects. I have therefore decided that there is no further point in continuing my life. It is my intention to... feed the car exhaust into the car, take some sleeping pills...
“I would have preferred to die with more dignity.
“It is my last will and testament that this letter be published for all to see and read.”
A.T. Renouf signed his will on the day he committed suicide, Oct. 16, 1995. “

Marriage Risk is not worth the reward.


26 posted on 02/09/2017 6:02:20 AM PST by JPJones (George Washington's Tariffs were Patriotic. Build a Wall and Build a Wall of tariffs.)
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To: Iron Munro

“Marry a good woman, be a good husband, build a good family, be a good father.

There is nothing sweeter.”

Become a wage slave, have the prospect of financial and social ruin, and the loss of your kids, and maybe false charges of abuse held over your head the minute she gets bored with you, shut up and smile because you are screwed

There is nothing sweeter for women and the state.


27 posted on 02/09/2017 6:03:27 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Gaffer

>>>IMO, children are for the young and stupid who have the energy and that certain naivete. I think one of the last things I’d have wanted is to attend my child’s high school graduation after just applying for medicare. But that is me.<<<

No argument there. My situation is not ideal, but I got divorced unwillingly. I found another woman a bit younger who was never married so the new baby. Otoh, he’s adorable and I shall enjoy this new direction my life has taken me.


28 posted on 02/09/2017 6:03:51 AM PST by BJ1
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To: kearnyirish2

The world today teaches males at a young age that women have “options”, men have obligations.


29 posted on 02/09/2017 6:05:09 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Breyean

Let’s just say it is my turn to be his rock much like you were for your wife.

Your story brought tears to my eyes. It is my hope that your son will have what you and your wife had. He has your marriage as an example! Sadly we are teaching the younger generation to pursue sex instead of romance. Hedonism instead of commitment. Self above all. Your marriage taught your son incredible values....far more than mere words could say. He won’t settle for anything less is my guess. My prayer for him will be that God prepares for him a mate that is perfect for him. That it will be a blessing and comfort to you.


30 posted on 02/09/2017 6:07:23 AM PST by karatemom
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To: BJ1

My comment wasn’t specifically against you. I just started thinking about my age and what could have been. I ended up with a daughter at age 32 and it was about all I could handle when she turned 18.....oh, the sleepless nights.

Regardless, I wish you the best of luck, and even if you don’t have the stamina, I am sure your younger wife will :0)


31 posted on 02/09/2017 6:09:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Mercat

my daughter is 36 and has been married,(guy was a cheater) no kids, owns a house, works full time, and would LOOOVE to remarry and have a family.
She hates dating, tho. She needs to go on Married at First Sight!


32 posted on 02/09/2017 6:09:57 AM PST by ronniesgal (hey move on over, snowflakes. the adults are in charge again!!!!! God Bless our President.)
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To: Gaffer

Yep. NATIONAL REVIEW SUCKS


33 posted on 02/09/2017 6:10:35 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ouderkirk

Well put!

Libs thought they could steer the outcome with their destruction of the traditional family; epic fail! Now they watch unenlightened Third Worlders come in and re-populate the West.


34 posted on 02/09/2017 6:10:57 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Ouderkirk

>>>The world today teaches males at a young age that women have “options”, men have obligations.<<<

Options: Let me translate.

The women have the option to get an education, get a career and slut around in their 20s. The women are riding high as they are young and pretty. They are living the dream they think.

Suddenly they will hear their biological clock ticking. Now the woman will exercise more of her options. She will suddenly decide she doesn’t want the same type of guy she was bedding her whole adult life before. Now she will want a “nice guy.” A guy who will ignore her past sexual partner count, a guy who will ignore all of the flaws that come along with falling in love and breaking up over and over and over again. A guy who is willing to start a family and give his resources to HER.

It must be nice to have the options to be selfish and greedy and to be able to find a pool of men to go along with this.

Sadly, the options for men are nowhere near as nice.


35 posted on 02/09/2017 6:12:49 AM PST by BJ1
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To: C19fan

If the recent women’s march was a display of the kind of woman men are meeting these days, then I can see why they’re opting to stay single.


36 posted on 02/09/2017 6:13:23 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Mercat

There are nice women out there, it’s just difficult to find them in the age of Kardashian.


37 posted on 02/09/2017 6:13:24 AM PST by tuffydoodle ("Never underestimate the total depravity of the average human being.")
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To: C19fan

Why would a family of $75000 want to be married when the man can make $45000 and not pay taxes and his ‘girlfriend’ can file her $30000 separately, claim all welfare benefits, and get $1000 a month in government assistance?


38 posted on 02/09/2017 6:14:26 AM PST by struggle (The)
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To: JayElBee

Also must be able to RESPECT your partner.


39 posted on 02/09/2017 6:14:34 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: BJ1

Yeah, both my friends from college are 40 and just married 26 year olds. My wife is my age but I’d never leave her, she’s just too good of a woman.


40 posted on 02/09/2017 6:15:17 AM PST by struggle (The)
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