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Trump to Mexico: Take care of 'bad hombres' or US might
AP ^ | February 1st, 2017 | By VIVIAN SALAMA

Posted on 02/01/2017 5:04:02 PM PST by Mariner

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump threatened in a phone call with his Mexican counterpart to send U.S. troops to stop "bad hombres down there" unless the Mexican military does more to control them, according to an excerpt of a transcript of the conversation obtained by The Associated Press.

The excerpt of the call did not detail who exactly Trump considered "bad hombres," nor did it make clear the tone and context of the remark, made in a Friday morning phone call between the leaders. It also did not contain Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto's response.

Still, the excerpt offers a rare and striking look at how the new president is conducting diplomacy behind closed doors. Trump's remarks suggest he is using the same tough and blunt talk with world leaders that he used to rally crowds on the campaign trail.

A White House spokesman did not respond to requests for comment. The Mexican government said the account was not accurate.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fakenews; rumor
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To: Mariner

Drudge headline.


21 posted on 02/01/2017 5:23:07 PM PST by tirednvirginia ( But help is on the way!)
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To: Edgar3
Me thinks a planted story, to uncover a leaker.

Very possible. If Trump is one thing, he is careful. And with the number of lefties floating around in the Executive branch, I'm sure that he wants to find the potential leakers and cut them off.

22 posted on 02/01/2017 5:24:04 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: Nicojones
American troops on the border....hell yea! American troops inside Messy-can territory....uh, not sure that's a good idea. Love to see it, but politically, prolly not wise.
23 posted on 02/01/2017 5:24:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Mariner
Bad hombre:


24 posted on 02/01/2017 5:35:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Nicojones

liberals just don’t want to win. Even if after 8 years the economy is soaring the liberals will be whining about how THEIR rights were violated etc. etc. etc.


25 posted on 02/01/2017 5:36:47 PM PST by Blue Highway (Q)
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To: Mariner

We need a new category of posts at FR. We have breaking news, extended news, and now....FAKE news!!!


26 posted on 02/01/2017 5:40:55 PM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: BigEdLB

Don’t believe that the drug cartels actually run Mexico?

Can you believe that one man ran Chicago for seven years in the last century?

Declare war on Mexico.


27 posted on 02/01/2017 5:44:59 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers, all armed conservatives)
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To: Mariner
Is it fake news...or just a lie?

Since it's AP, you're right on both counts.

I don't recall being able to use them as much but a Perfect Negative Barometer (i.e. whatever they say is the opposite of the facts of the matter) since about '66.

....and I'm embarrassed that I took that long to figure 'em out.

28 posted on 02/01/2017 5:47:41 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (...against all enemies, foreign or domestic...)
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To: ichabod1

Info came from a pastor.google should find it


29 posted on 02/01/2017 5:57:55 PM PST by RummyChick
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Is he the first president since Eisenhower to say this to them?


30 posted on 02/01/2017 6:17:20 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: Mariner

The bad hombres are the ones with the Fast and Furious guns.


31 posted on 02/01/2017 6:26:51 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Mariner

If it is true, it might actually work, under some certain conditions.

To start with, the Mexican army is inadequate to take on the cartels, for all sorts of reasons, so currently the heavy lifting is done by the Mexican marines. Typically they are sequestered on their bases, no contact with the outside, their identities are not known, to protect their families from retribution.

So if the US and Mexico agreed to crush the cartels once and for all, the Mexican army would pull back and just create a defensive perimeter around the major cities. Otherwise the roads heading south would have heavy checkpoints, manned by several agencies, not just the army, but the federal police and maybe others.

With coordination and assistance from the Mexican marines, The US army combat divisions, with some subset of likely the 82nd Airborne (Fort Bragg) and 101st Airborne (Ft. Campbell), with the 1st Cavalry division (Ft. Bliss), 1st ID (Ft. Riley and Ft. Knox), and 3rd ID (Ft. Benning), would rapidly occupy all the cartel areas in northern Mexico.

http://www.storybench.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/dea-mexico-drugcartels.png

The idea would be to break up the biggest of the border cartels, smashing their power base, taking over their buildings and ranches, and restoring the civilian governments. And most particularly, to stop the flow of drugs north and money south.

In effect northern Mexico would be under martial law for a few months. Surprisingly little fighting, but giving the Mexican government time to reestablish itself. Importantly, any cartel members we caught would be taken back to the US and kept as detainees until both the US and Mexican governments decided to do something about them.

An irony of this is that we would ask them to identify to which cartel they belonged, so that they would not be put in the same prison as enemy cartel members. If they refused to say, well, they take their chances.

Administratively, the US and Mexico would strip them of assets, weapons, hidden bank accounts and laundering capability.

The overall operation would be based on the “Giuliani method”, that once you totally clean a place of crime and bad influences, it is much easier to keep clean with just a fraction of the effort.

The US and the Mexican marines would be quite literally “liberating” entire towns and cities occupied and ruled by the cartels, almost as murderous as ISIS or the Taliban.

Finally, again after a few months of stability, with the Mexican government comfortable enough to take charge, the US military could leave, and wish them the best of luck.


32 posted on 02/01/2017 6:36:31 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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To: gaijin

Cliff divers on the left!!! Don’t these people ever give up!


33 posted on 02/01/2017 6:53:47 PM PST by BBell (calm down and eat your sandwiches)
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To: Mariner

Let’s see in 1848 Generals Taylor and Scott defeated Mexico and Mexico lost California, and lots of other territory.
In 1916 General Pershing went in and kicked butt on Pancho Villa.
It looks like 1916 all over again.


34 posted on 02/01/2017 7:04:17 PM PST by BuffaloJack
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To: BigEdLB

Exactly.

Hooked on the show “Narcos”...


35 posted on 02/01/2017 7:16:18 PM PST by proud American in Canada (May God Bless the U.S.A. (Trump: I will bear the slings and arrows for you, the American people))
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To: gaijin

aTacolips Now?


36 posted on 02/01/2017 7:18:14 PM PST by umgud
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To: BBell

Linking this to this thread. Anyone know what Drudge’s headlines are all about?
http://www.drudgereport.com/


37 posted on 02/01/2017 7:18:56 PM PST by pollywog (" O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

100 years ago, Pershing, Pancho Villa. Didn’t exactly work out as planned. Wall , yes. Expeditionary force, no.


38 posted on 02/01/2017 7:22:07 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: Mariner

I call fake.

Because per this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3520275/posts?page=13#13

Any calls between heads of state are classified.

If it were real, then AP reporter could be brought up on charges and face —serious— jail time if convicted.


39 posted on 02/01/2017 7:29:26 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Mariner

It’s fake. President Trump doesn’t talk that way.

It’s hokey. contrived, phoney!


40 posted on 02/01/2017 7:34:17 PM PST by donna ('God's standards, like it or not, are the basis for the laws that led to western civilization.)
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