Posted on 01/10/2017 5:35:58 AM PST by outpostinmass2
ROSEVILLE, Mich. (WXYZ) - Did you know you could get fined for heating up your car? One man's parking ticket has gone viral, with thousands of views after he was ticketed for heating up his car in his own driveway.
Taylor Trupiano says he's still shaking his head over a parking ticket he got on his own property.
"I thought it was some kind of joke at first, and then I was thrown back by it," he said. "I was really surprised."
The ticket was for leaving the keys in the ignition with the motor running and no one around. Trupiano said he was only doing something many people in Michigan do during the winter.
"I was in and out in probably about 7-8 minutes," he added. "So in that amount of time he ran up here, gave me a ticket and by the time I got out he was nowhere to be seen."
Frustrated with the ticket, he posted a photo on Facebook where he racked up thousands of comments and shares.
The Roseville Police Department ticket comes with a $128 fine. There is no state law against leaving your car turned on and unattended, but dozens of cities across Michigan have local ordinances.
"We have five to ten cars stolen this way every winter," Roseville Police Chief James Berlin said. "It's dangerous, and of course it drives everyone's insurance rates up. It drives our crime rates up."
Many of the ordinances will allow you to use a remote start because the vehicle is locked.
Berlin tells 7 Action News they will not apologize and in fact, he encourages his officers to enforce this law.
"It's common sense. We can't warn everybody of the law there is. Common sense says you don't leave your car running unattended," Berlin said.
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Many states require a property owner to secure their private property ON their private property commonly identifying such property as an “attractive nuisance” and imposing fines and torts to force compliance.
Yes, but I believe the fines take place after a nuisance is enacted. Police cannot enter your home or property without a search warrant and dream up any and all scenarios an “attractive nuisance” that may happen.
I believe he simply wants the car locked! However, break the window, and again, the car gets stolen with the keys in the ignition.
I simply remote start the vehicle again. NBD.
Generally correct, but police can and may get a warrant for Attractive Nuisances that are in plain sight on or in your property, and can do so at the speed of smartphone communication.
And you will receive a $128 fine according to the law.
This is really upsetting to me. Did you hear the Police Chief mention the fact that 7-10 cars/year are stolen this way? Apparently the police believe this is aiding and abetting. Idiots.
Actually, in most places there are laws against public nudity. So there’s a line there, too.
As long as you choose to fight your fight in court, go for it.
By their logic, it should be illegal to leave your home. You’ve left all your possessions unattended. Criminals can see when nobody is home. That encourages theft, increases insurance rates, and increases crime rates.
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I wonder if police there are also not allowed to leave their running vehicles unattended.
I am one of them folks that live around you we use a 2000 crown vic as our farm truck...carry goats ,dogs ,feed what ever we need to haul. did not agree with you BUT great job yesterday I thought for sure you were toast. and most important thing is we have a closed gate on our little bity farm.....state way to lazy to open gate....they wait for the satellite view every couple of years then they see new construction ...call ...come out and look ...send revised tax bill...how ever Dept of fish and game WILL
If the CA is California then you likely don't understand that nearly everyone who doesn't have a garage in Michigan warms up their vehicle in Michigan in the winter. This guy got a ticket for something almost everyone has done or does...and nobody has ever heard of getting ticketed. That's why it's news. The cop is an idiot.
did not agree with you
Where I live, pretty much everybody has quadrunners, and some are four passenger rigs. No licenses.
They are on the road all the time. There is a lady up the hill that takes her grandkids on the tour in her four seater all the time. Cops really leave us alone out here. It’s why I moved here. And yeah, you’re right about the satellites. :)
BTW, My place: http://s409.photobucket.com/user/robbbb4/slideshow/Kentucky%20home
5 stolen cars a year. Wow, a crime wave.
As usual, the cure is worse than the disease.
I was from Brooklyn with no garage, so you start the car and pretty much jump in to monitor it.
People are idiots in bad weather. I would see people without chains, start cars then have them hydroplane over ice into various cars down hill and the block.
It’s very uncomfortable and inconvenient, but better tan damage or getting hurt IMO.
I’m pretty sure that most cars made after about 2013 or so have trackers as well as “black boxes” that can tell the cops how fast you were going and what actions you took (changed radio stations, turned on the wipers, turned off the lights, accelerated, stepped on the brake, ... ) during the last 10 minutes or so before a crash.
For all or most new cars it’s already here. And it’s not just the government. I believe the car manufacturers are keeping tabs on you, too.
Right, because even an idiot knows the engine block heater will warm up the inside of the car, and defrost the windows....
Oh...wait...
I lock my car when I heat it up... though I have to pull the actual metallic key out of the electronic assembly and turn the lock mechanically, as the electronic lock won’t operate from the outside when the car is running.
I don’t know what my local ordinances are on the subject... I should look it up.
I have no doubt what you said is right. But they will start openly using them.
State EPA?
Something special with your car, or what do you mean?
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