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Navy’s Top Officer “Underestimated” Negative Feedback Before Scraping Historic Navy Ratings
Gannett's Navy Times; American Military News.com ^ | DECEMBER 9, 2016 | By: David B. Larter, Gannett's Navy Times; "STAFF WRITER 4"

Posted on 12/13/2016 7:52:55 PM PST by US Navy Vet

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To: US Navy Vet

Mabus needs to be the first one to go. Put in a traditional minded SECNAV and CNO. Basically the same rebuilding that had to happen in 1981 after the Ford/Carter terms. The recovery this time will take longer because the damage has been ongoing an entire military career cycle. New recruits will be needed and senior NCO’s and officers will need to do some weeding out as well.


21 posted on 12/13/2016 8:39:23 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: US Navy Vet

Uniparty media underestimated Clintons high negatives and thought she would win, too.


22 posted on 12/13/2016 8:57:12 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Works for me.

The homosexual issue has reversed thousands of years of civilization’s accepted norms.

This dumps several hundred years of tradition.

I think this is more about causing societal upheaval than anything else.

I see these as evil measures. They are not needed. Women wanted to join the services, and now we’re supposed to change the services to suit them. How does that work? Have they changed anything for the men? I’m sure they could come up with some things.

I wouldn’t want them to change things. There’s a fine tradition, and when you change it, there is no gold standard any longer.

Five years later you change it again. Pretty soon you’ve got mush for military codes of conduct and standardized titles.


23 posted on 12/13/2016 9:10:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (jcon40, "Are we be coming into the age of Sanity?")
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To: US Navy Vet

And while you’re at it, give the Rangers back their black berets. Enough of this crap.


24 posted on 12/13/2016 9:18:51 PM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: US Navy Vet

Trump is just begging for the inaguration, You’re Fired! Is going to fly out of his mouth as soon as he says, “So Help Me God!”


25 posted on 12/13/2016 10:40:42 PM PST by pacificus
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To: US Navy Vet

When I was in in the late 60’s and 70’s the enlisted men took pride in their ratings regardless if the were Boatsun mates, Radiomen, Signalmen, Boiler Techs are what ever! They knew they had won the right to wear that rating and you could always tell what job a sailor did! I was an RM2 in three years and I was proud of it! The officers don’t have ratings so maybe they are just jealous!


26 posted on 12/13/2016 10:55:37 PM PST by longhorn too
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To: US Navy Vet

In what thankfully will soon be remembered as ancient times, the Emperor obama sought to eliminate all traditions and initiate a Social Revolution on a par with that of his hero, Lenin.

His minions, seeking to curry favor with this demented *sshat, followed suit.

Luckily for us, the Revolution failed, and now obama is floating away on the currents of history to assume his rightful place as By Far The Worst President in the Entire History of the United States.


27 posted on 12/13/2016 11:33:26 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

Oh yeah Mabus...This guy who sounds like Bill Clinton will finally be gone.


28 posted on 12/13/2016 11:37:33 PM PST by OKITRUMP77
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To: rlmorel

>>It is almost beyond belief. This is what happens when the liberals are in charge.

They live in a fantasy world. Then they ridicule us for believing in God.

If a person can’t adjust to civilian jobs because she has a Navy rating, then that’s not the rating’s fault.


29 posted on 12/14/2016 3:10:31 AM PST by Bryanw92 (If we had some ham, we could have ham and eggs, if we had some eggs.)
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To: US Navy Vet

gots to wonder how many competent military personnel were sacked in favor of these social experimenter types by this very stupid magic negro?


30 posted on 12/14/2016 3:10:46 AM PST by Joe Boucher (Her ass belongs in prison.)
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“Can Trump easily fix this?” After January 20th, Trump will have a pen. And a phone. And the balls to undo almost everything Obama has done.

Trump will make the last 8 years look like Blight being hauled to the dump.

31 posted on 12/14/2016 4:26:10 AM PST by Dustoff45 (A change is a comin')
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Heh, the way you framed that "it's not the ratings fault" (which is clearly the mindset of the liberals responsible) just reminded me of the way they blame the actual SUV or gun for killing someone, instead of blaming the person driving or holding a gun.

Reminds me of Bill Whittle's excellent video on this weird mindset "It's The Steel"

32 posted on 12/14/2016 5:04:46 AM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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To: US Navy Vet
That clown Mabus should NEVER have been put in that job. He's is an ideologue ass
33 posted on 12/14/2016 5:05:20 AM PST by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: US Navy Vet

What a load of crapola. Any Chief Petty Officer in the Navy could have told him it was a crappy idea.


34 posted on 12/14/2016 5:44:50 AM PST by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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To: Dracomeister

I think these turd herders are more concerned with Semen than Seaman.


35 posted on 12/14/2016 5:55:15 AM PST by ABN 505 (Right is right if nobody is right, and wrong is wrong if everybody is wrong. ~Archbishop Fulton John)
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To: US Navy Vet

General McPeak did the same thing for the AF 25 years ago. He changed all of our specialty codes and regulations. I imagine the total cost was in the billions. The AF had to rewrite regulations, manuals, pamphlets, forms, signs, etc. Things were in total chaos for several years after that.

I was on a team that worked on the pre-runner for the Navy change-over after I retired from the AF. My job was to cross-reference Navy ratings and codes to Department of Labor job descriptions so potential employers could decrypt it.


36 posted on 12/14/2016 6:02:46 AM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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The officers don’t have ratings so maybe they are just jealous!

They also need three kinds of shoe polish- black, brown and white! < /black shoe navy vet >

37 posted on 12/14/2016 8:15:13 AM PST by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Remember when they tried to Ban Bellbottemed pants? The USN is a conservative service. It took a while to get them to stop using sails and go for steam after all. Its part of who they are—just as using foul language and tattoos.


38 posted on 12/14/2016 12:03:52 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I don’t remember them trying to ban bell bottoms. Must have been outside of my Navy years.


39 posted on 12/14/2016 12:06:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Conservatives love America for what it is. Liberals hate America for the same reason.)
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