Posted on 11/27/2016 6:55:28 AM PST by Kaslin
When people speak of Hillary Clinton winning the popular vote, they are really speaking about California. In that state, Hillary Clinton won 6,621,346 votes to Donald Trump's 3,549,576 as of this writing. This margin of over three million votes alone accounts for any claim that Clinton exceeded Trump in popular support.
Consider some numbers. In New York, Trump won 37.5% of the vote; in New Jersey, Trump won over 40%; and in Illinois, Trump won 39.4%. Among sizably populated states that lean "overwhelmingly" Democrat, California is in a class by itself. Trump struggled to get even a third of Californian votes.
Moreover, New York, New Jersey, and Illinois differ markedly from California because their tilt toward the Democrats happens on a very different landscape. New York and Illinois are pushed into deep blue territory by singular metro areas (NYC and Chicago), which overpower small-town areas ("upstate" or "downstate") where Republicans gather in strong numbers. New Jersey is wedged between the Democratic machine cities of Philadelphia and New York City and has a smattering of medium-sized urban centers with large black populations.
Only in California does one find a vast state with a huge population (nearly 40 million people) with multiple sprawling metro areas that all lean strongly Democratic or, at best (in the case of San Diego), just libertarian enough to be less than completely left wing. The San Francisco Bay Area, Los Angeles, Sacramento, Palm Springs, Long Beach, etc. stretch across miles and miles of a complex and diverse landscape, hosting a stunning multiplicity of races and ethnicities. Yet everywhere you go in the state, you seem to find Democrats or Republicans who just don't strike you as all that conservative.
California is a different country.
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I don’t want you (what I call higher desert people) gone....only the coastal leech libtards and illegals.
Most of California can blame a lot of their troubles on that bastard Mulholland. He screwed a lot of Californians out of their birthrights.
OK, but who gets it? England? Spain? France? Mexico
Was stationed in the UP at Kincheloe AFB. Loved it as well as going on the Canadian side, riding the Algoma Rail to Lake Ogidaki. Michigan is a great place for hunting and fishing.
If californication goes, it will be on terms that are very favorable to the union, and very unfavorable to the new bathhouse republic. We keep San Diego.
I hope californication pulls back from the brink. But insanity sort of describes leftism and globalism to a “T”, does it not?
I was simply quoting the demographic page from the small town I grew up in.
Where are you suggesting they would have to be moved to? Making California part of Mexico once again would not require any physical movement.
You will find a lot of the sane people in California working in these industries.
Sadly you will find far more that are not sane in California, and they do not work for these industries.
So your solution to the international socialist effort of flooding our country with illegal migrant invaders is too let them stay and then carve up our country? Your mangina is showing.
Your philosophy of neutered conservatism is what let the far-left infest every institution in this country.
China .... they will throw billions into it and buy what even the mexicans can’t afford.
“SO, if you slice off the coastal area bounded on the East by the San Andreas fault (If you get my drift), Trump wins the Popular vote.”
Split California into two states. That way the conservatives will have 2 more electoral votes.
Demographic changes in California are not of a transient nature. On that, I think we can both agree (unless Trump is able to reverse the sweeping flow of immigrants in a very big way).
Uncontrolled immigration is changing the very social fabric of portions of the state in very profound ways. The DofI didn’t envision the massive demographic transformation of a state and its resulting schism with the rest of the country. To be a unified country, there has to be some common ground on beliefs, respect for laws, and loyalties. When those binding things are not present, its not in either party’s interest to remain in a union.
If Attorney General Sessions leads a serious Federal investigation into the Democrat vote fraud machine in California, the problem will vanish by 2018. California will still be a liberal state, but something like 53-47 instead of 67-33.
A better solution is letting California divide into two or more states, so the conservatives have more say and we don’t lose the port/navy base in San Diego.
We keep California because we built California up from the wilderness. I don’t care what the children of illegal aliens who hate America want. All that needs to be done is saturation bombing of San Francisco and LA with incendiaries à la Dresden and the problem is solved. When the fire dies down then round up the survivors, put the.on a train, and ship them to Mexico.
I live in Arizona and have build a life here, if California goes then Arizona is next and I don’t feel like moving.
No, and you’re being condescending. I’m not going to devolve to epithets like you. Have a great day, in whatever state you reside.
Let California from San Clementine north all go, also Oregon and Washington west of the Cascade Mountains to Everett Washington.
Do the math folks.
Trump got 34.8% of the vote in California versus 37.5% in NY and 39.4% in Ill..
No real difference.
The real difference was probably the illegals and dead voting in California.
Go look in a mirror. I will bet that you see a country-club RINO - with a mangina.
People who say let CA go or give it back to mexico are not thinking clearly.
That would enable Mexico or any country they allow basically the whole western side of USA to set up ability to attack USA. Foreign countries could set up missile abilities in CA rather than from further away.
That is only one of the many reasonsUSA needs to keep CA
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