Posted on 11/27/2016 4:19:20 AM PST by NYer
The recount in Wisconsin, and coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change the outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that is the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
Then this goes to Congress, where the House voting 1 vote per state elects Trump, and Senate selects Pence. This would be first time this happened since 1824; in that case, John Quincy Adams won in the House, though he had fewer electoral college votes than Andrew Jackson.
If this goes to the US House and Senate, and the result is the same as from the Electoral College without the recounts, why do it? The answer is to make Trump seem even more illegitimate, that he did not win the popular vote (he lost by over 2.1 million), he did not win the Electoral College (did not reach 270), and was elected by being inserted into the presidency by members of his own party in Congress.
The recount in Wisconsin, and the coming ones in Michigan and Pennsylvania will not change outcomes in any of the states. No recount ever changes thousands of votes. I do not think that's the purpose.
The recounts, if done by hand, which can be demanded, may take longer than the last day for completing the official counts in a state and directing Electoral College voters. If all 3 states miss the deadline, Trump is at 260, Hillary at 232. No one hits 270.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Report: Soros, Big Liberal Donors Meeting with Dems on Stopping Trump
Now Team Hillary is on board ... surprise! (/sarc). And Stein plans to extend the recount to other states, as well.
If the recounts are not done in time, the state legislatures have the option of using the original results and directing the electors to vote accordingly.
No .Trump is way off.This is Soros and Hillary trying to steal the election.soros paid for that bot ($5 million already) to pay off Stein and to pay for the recounts.
Soros and Hillary have been scheming this for 3 weeks. Their scheme is to recount MI,WI,PA and flip those states to Hillary with voter fraud.
Busted! Jill Stein’s Election Recount Is Being Paid For By a Bot!
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=50879
Roger Stone on Twitter: “Jill Stein “recount funded by Soros
https://mobile.twitter.com/RogerJStoneJr/status/802230392493404160
Trump's a political novice. We 've seen for years how democrats,Soros and Hillary cheat
That’s a theory, and it may even be valid. As long as it doesn’t change the outcome I could care less. We all still know Trump won by a landslide, and his reelection landslide will be even greater.
What I’ve been saying all along.
I thought this also, and posted about it yesterday - but it’s not true.
The President is elected by a majority, not of possible electors (270), but by a majority of electors ACTUALLY APPOINTED (it says that, right in Article II and again in Amendment XII).
So, while I agree the purpose is to hurt Trump, blocking the certification of these electors can’t send the election to the House.
i think it will backfire because those who scheme do so with the old paradigms that say they will prevail and not be called to task - the eyes of too many of the People have been opened.
If I am right and this really all about keeping PizzaGate off the front pages, then Maine’s delegation will vote clinton/kaine.
If Jill and Hillary’s lawyers actively try to slow down/delay the process, we will know for sure.
The real reason is Jill Stein promoting Jill Stein and the Green Party... big political windfall for them... millions of nutcase Dems now love Jill and the Green Party.
It’s all about JILL!
All of this is an exercise in futility and and effort to keep unlearned America confused.
REMEMBER ... 87% of the electorate is public school HS graduates and (I'm guessing) about 20% of those are liberal arts (commie) college degree holders.
Bottom line, about 60% are card carrying socialists and have no clue what the Constitution says and would actively erase it from our history.
(Some already making that attempt)
Concessions are not binding. They are words. Remember Al Gore?
I do not think concession has any legal impact. It is a public relations issue, not legal.
By slowing down the “new final results” could mean the Electors in those 3 states will not be able to cast their votes for Trump and could delay/stop the inauguration.
First, I DO BELIEVE hillary and soros are in this to win, to to hurt Trump’s legitimacy.
Second, who gives a ####?
All this talk about hurting him because he lost the popular vote, now he may have to win by congress vote, means nothing.
He’s still the president and the congress is republican.
It would make sense if the congress were democrat, then they could say “look, he doesn’t have a mandate, the people back us!!”
But they dont.
And this doesn’t matter.
Not even a little.
The electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not be an inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a list of all the persons voted for, and of the number of votes for each; which list they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates, and the votes shall then be counted. The person having the greatest number of votes shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such majority, and have an equal number of votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately choose by ballot one of them for President; and if no person have a majority, then from the five highest on the list the said House shall in like manner choose the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by States, the representation from each State having one vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two thirds of the States, and a majority of all the States shall be necessary to a choice. In every case, after the choice of the President, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal votes, the Senate shall choose from them by ballot the Vice President.
The last time the dems did this in 2000 they succeeded in disrupting the transition, delaying the confirmation of some appointees and convincing Al Qaeda that Bush was weak and would not be able to respond to a major terrorist attack on US soil.
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