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Historian finds German decree banishing Trump's grandfather
Guardian ^
| 11/21/16
| Kate Connolly in Berlin
Posted on 11/22/2016 5:40:36 PM PST by ifinnegan
A historian has discovered a royal decree issued to Donald Trumps grandfather ordering him to leave Germany and never come back.
Friedrich Trump, a German, was issued with the document in February 1905, and ordered to leave the kingdom of Bavaria within eight weeks as punishment for having failed to do mandatory military service and failing to give authorities notice of his departure to the US when he first emigrated in 1885.
Kallstadt, Germany: on the trail of 'the Donald' in the Trump ancestral home Read more Roland Paul, a historian from Rhineland-Palatinate who found the document in local archives, told the tabloid Bild: Friedrich Trump emigrated from Germany to the USA in 1885. However, he failed to de-register from his homeland and had not carried out his military service, which is why the authorities rejected his attempt at repatriation.
The decree orders the American citizen and pensioner Friedrich Trump to leave the area at the very latest on 1 May ... or else expect to be deported. Bild called the archive find an unspectacular piece of paper, that had nevertheless changed world history.
Trump was born in Kallstadt, now in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate, in 1869. He emigrated to the US aged 16 initially to escape poverty, attracted by the gold rush.
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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; trump; trumpen; trumpfamily; trumps; trumptransition
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To: b4me
Like a lot of names, his Grandfather’s name was Americanized.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:56:01 PM PST
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: b4me
I read elsewhere the family name wasnt Trump until after coming to USA and starting businesses here?
Yes, it was Trumpowitz. They shortened it when they went into Vaudeville.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:56:11 PM PST
by
Genoa
(Luke 12:2)
To: ifinnegan
I met a guy whose family history involved the Austro-Prussian War in 1866. One side of the family left Austria to avoid military service then, and the other left Germany for the same reason. Wonder if any of the grandsons went back in WWI in the US army.
To: ifinnegan
His family being kicked out of Germany is a good defense whenever they call him a Nazi.
He needs to ask Merkel to pardon his ancestor.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:57:04 PM PST
by
JediJones
(We must deport all liberals until we can figure out what the hell is going on.)
To: ifinnegan
Is it our Trump? I thought Trump’s name was different in the olden days and was altered in USA.
To: RegulatorCountry; Genoa
Were you guys both making the same joke?
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:57:29 PM PST
by
ifinnegan
(Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
To: Vigilanteman
Correct. A recently deceased friend went to work on a N Dakota farm following his graduation in 1939. The farmers two sons had returned to Germany (can you say to serve the fatherland?) My friend ended up learning German as the farmer spoke no English.
Fast forward to WW2—he was infantry (draftee) but frequently used as an interpreter—was one of the first to enter Dachau. Liberated the camp commanders SS sword. On his death his wife donated it to Camp Dodge military museum.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:57:31 PM PST
by
whistleduck
("....the calm confidence of a Christian with 4 aces".....S.)
To: ifinnegan
Look at this, the msm can find stuff like this and they never could find shit about obama.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:57:37 PM PST
by
EXCH54FE
(Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
To: ifinnegan
I heard the spawn of Kaiser Wilhelm ended up becoming the Mayor of New York.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:57:54 PM PST
by
Kickass Conservative
( Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
To: RegulatorCountry
Or, perhaps your sense of humor isnt quite as clever as you, yourself imagine it to be.
Impossible. I had to register it as a lethal weapon with the take-everything-literally police. People without a sense of humor need to be protected. Go to your safe space. That's your only warning.
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:58:44 PM PST
by
Genoa
(Luke 12:2)
To: Perchant
my faith in him is fading fast. Even before hes sworn in.
Ya should have voted for Jindal
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:59:08 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: ifinnegan
One of my ancestors came to America only after her older brothers had skipped Germany to avoid mandatory military service and ended up coaxing the family to join them in north-central Iowa. They were
Ostfrieslanders who ended up intermarrying with
Noordhollanders and the resulting families retained a bunch of quirky cultural remnants, yet they self-identified as Americans from the get-go.
Mr. niteowl77
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posted on
11/22/2016 5:59:41 PM PST
by
niteowl77
(Don't need no Bushes. Don't need no Clintons. Don't need no fooling around.)
To: ifinnegan; RegulatorCountry
Were you guys both making the same joke?
I was. I'm not too sure about him.
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:00:30 PM PST
by
Genoa
(Luke 12:2)
To: ifinnegan
Grandfather ALSO was attracted to GOOOOOOLD....!
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:00:54 PM PST
by
gaijin
To: Genoa
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:00:57 PM PST
by
b4me
(If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
To: ifinnegan
Let’s see. Decree issued by....
Wilhelm Clinstein.
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:01:13 PM PST
by
Vinnie
To: ifinnegan
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:01:34 PM PST
by
Daffynition
(*Donald Trump represents the WILL of the PEOPLE.*~ Don King 09.24.16)
To: ifinnegan
yes as was my ancestors name AFTER they arrived. The historical paper I thought was in Germany telling him to leave - he wouldn’t have an americanized name before leaving Germany.
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:02:44 PM PST
by
b4me
(If Jesus came to set us free, why are so many professed Believers still in chains?)
To: Genoa
FREED SLAVE
Trump’s grandfather was a FREED SLAVE!
Trump is a decendant of Freed Slaves.
That is real true history of Germany. German slavery is not taught. These were not draft dodgers. They has slavery for many years.
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:02:56 PM PST
by
TheNext
(Hillary Hurts Children & Women)
To: Daffynition
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posted on
11/22/2016 6:03:02 PM PST
by
Jamestown1630
("A Republic, If you can keep it.")
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