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Trump victory gives impetus to California secession movement
CBSNEWS.COM ^ | November 10, 2016 | CBS

Posted on 11/10/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by Morgana

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Donald Trump’s election as president is giving a big social-media boost to an unlikely effort in the nation’s most populous state: a plan to vote on seceding from the union.

The Yes California Independence Campaign hopes to put a question on the November 2018 ballot that would authorize a statewide independence vote for the spring of 2019.

The effort drew little attention until Tuesday’s election, which also kept Trump’s fellow Republicans in charge of Congress and raised the possibility of a conservative shift on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Any effort to get an issue on the ballot requires the gathering of hundreds of thousands of signatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2018; 201811; 2019; alexanderionov; ca2016; caleavefornia; calexit; california; electoralvotes; fsb; fsbmeddling; ionov; louismarinelli; marinelli; newcalifornia; russiacollusion; russianmeddling; secession; secessionists; timdraper; uhurumovement; ycic; yescalifornia
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There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall And the bells in the steeple too. And up in the nursery, an absurd little bird Is popping up to say, "Cuckoo cuckoo!"

Regretfully they tell us but firmly they compel us To say goodbye to you.

So long, farewell,auf wiedersehen, good night. I hate to go and leave this pretty sight.

So long, farewell auf wiedersehen, adieu Adieu, adieu, to yieu and yieu and yieu.

So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen. I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne Yes? "no."

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye I leave and heave a sigh and say goodbye

1 posted on 11/10/2016 5:33:42 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

We’re waiting. Quit whining and go!!!


2 posted on 11/10/2016 5:38:32 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Morgana

We’re waiting. Quit whining and go!!!


3 posted on 11/10/2016 5:38:35 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Morgana

And when you get yourself set up Trump will be happy to negotiate trade deals with you.

4 posted on 11/10/2016 5:39:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: Morgana

I hope they do it. . .

then we can invade, defeat the rebels, try them, execute them, confiscate their property, and make California great again.

I’m just saying...


5 posted on 11/10/2016 5:40:31 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Morgana

Cut them loose, we won’t miss their lunatic Senators, Congresscritters and their 55 Democrat electoral votes.
But first we have to move FreeRepublic to a free state.


6 posted on 11/10/2016 5:40:36 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: Morgana

Woo-hoo! Looks like we made it out of California just in time. Moved out a few months ago and were privileged to vote and help keep Arizona red this year!

We finally felt as if our votes made a difference this time.

Please, California, secede and don’t let the door hit you on the way out. We’ll even let Hillary be your president if you do.


7 posted on 11/10/2016 5:41:27 PM PST by davandbar
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To: Morgana

What about Camp Pendleton, Miramrar MCAS, Naval Staion San Diego, North Island NAS, Marine Corp Recruit Depot, Coronado Naval Amphibious Base? Can we just get rid of Los Angeles and San Francisco.


8 posted on 11/10/2016 5:42:35 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Morgana

We need to divide California up into three states. We will name them reason, confusion and Mexico.


9 posted on 11/10/2016 5:42:41 PM PST by Ben Mugged (He who lacks the will does not need the ability.)
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To: Morgana

What about Camp Pendleton, Miramrar MCAS, Naval Staion San Diego, North Island NAS, Marine Corp Recruit Depot, Coronado Naval Amphibious Base? Can we just get rid of Los Angeles and San Francisco.


10 posted on 11/10/2016 5:42:46 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: Morgana

Millions have died so that our nation could remain safe. They gave their lives for Republicans and Democrats. We have seen a shift in our nation, but we are still a nation.

If millions died to keep the sacred trust, shouldn’t we be willing to try to take back our lost territory?

Ten people ot of 36 million or so Californians go to the state capital to get some attention, and some FReepers can’t wait to chime in saying, if those ten want to go, the other 36 million should have to accept it.

The nation’s busiest sea ports are in California. San Diego, Los Angeles, and San Francisco is where they are located. In times of war we need those ports.

What folks have just signed on to, is a deal where anyone who gains control of California, could agree to have a Chinese or Russian military presence there. Hey, those ports would come in handy.

California has the sixth largest economy in the world. Hey, why not gift that to Mexico or a single entity Astlan?

FRee Republic resides in California. So do 35% of the voters who picked Trump over Clinton. Hey, no problem, they deserve to be abandoned by loyal citizens.

Folks we have our work cut out for us. We need to tackle the problems of unions, universities, and guys like George Soros.

If we let California go, we’ll be playing right into their hands. They’ll focus on other states and soon we’ll have lost the entire West coast and stats inland from there.

I know folks think they are being loyalist when they champion the cause of getting rid of bad states. In fact what they are championing is something no enemy has been able to do, take mainland United States soil without a fight.

I live in California. The largest financial support group for Free Republic every quarter for years, does as well.

California is a problem. If folks want to develop focus groups on how to change that, I’m all for it. We shouldn’t get rid of California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, New Mexico or Colorado. We shouldn’t get rid of New York or other states.

Folks, we need to come up with strategies that serve us well, not George Soros well.


11 posted on 11/10/2016 5:42:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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To: Morgana

Let them show us where in the California state constitution it says they can do that, because I’m fairly certain I’d understood there’s specific language in there which says they absolutely cannot.

Some language inserted there specifically to prevent the new state of California switching back to the old pre-1849 era Californios’ republic or to the Vice-Admiralty of New Spain.


12 posted on 11/10/2016 5:44:07 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Morgana

Get out, out, out.

After they secede, we can invade them and deport them from our newly annexed territory.


13 posted on 11/10/2016 5:44:12 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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Oh, and one more thing, if you do secede Trump will build a wall between the United States and California. Ten feet higher than the one between America and Mexico.


14 posted on 11/10/2016 5:44:15 PM PST by TigersEye (Congratulations, President Donald J. Trump! - Let's MAGA!!!)
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To: Morgana

Let them go. In two years we can charge them $100,000 dollars per roll of toilet paper.


15 posted on 11/10/2016 5:44:28 PM PST by The Toll
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To: Morgana

We suffered thru Obama. They can suffer thru Trump.


16 posted on 11/10/2016 5:45:05 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m willing to sacrifice the San Francisco peninsula as the city/county/state/country to the liberals. We can all gather any watch then ban earthquakes in their enlightened society.


17 posted on 11/10/2016 5:47:00 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Morgana

This is so stupid.

Can a state legally secede from the Union? Many, including Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, suggest no. In a 2006 letter, Justice Scalia argued that a the question was not in the realm of legal possibility because 1) the United States would not be party to a lawsuit on the issue 2) the “constitutional” basis of secession had been “resolved by the Civil War,” and 3) there is no right to secede, as the Pledge of Allegiance clearly illustrates through the line “one nation, indivisible.”

The Fourteenth Amendment to the constitution states:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

So it legally can’t be done.

red


18 posted on 11/10/2016 5:52:00 PM PST by Redwood71
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To: Luke21

Another wall to build.


19 posted on 11/10/2016 5:52:08 PM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: kingu

Every inch of this nation was fought and died for.

If Conservative mouths weren’t bigger than their patriotism, they would collectively pack up and move to California.

It wouldn’t take ten years before California would be voting as a Conservative state again.

Millions of Californians abandoned the state, and allowed the Leftist to take over. What did we expect, running away instead of fighting? Where to we run next? When do we stop running?

Time to take a stand is right now. Here in California.

I’m not conceding an inch.


20 posted on 11/10/2016 5:55:02 PM PST by DoughtyOne (The morning and the evening were the election day. People voted. The Lord saw, and it was good.)
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